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tomcollins
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West:

1) Fresno vs. 8) SNK
Previous Meeting: 26-23 Fresno
My Line: Fresno -5

2) EZ vs. 7) Tijuana
Previous Meeting: 29-21 EZ
My Line: EZ -10

3) San Francisco vs. 6) LilWeezyAna
Previous Meeting: 24-13 LilWeezyAna
My Line: San Francisco -3

4) Minnesota vs. 5) Colorado
Previous Meeting: 10-9 Colorado
My Line: Colorado -1

East:
1) Columbus vs. 8) New York
Previous Meeting: 24-17 Columbus
My Line: Columbus -13

2) Naperville vs. 7) St. Louis
Previous Meeting: 35-7 Naperville
My Line: Naperville -16

3) Indianapolis vs. 6) Sin City
Previous Meeting: 20-17 Indianapolis
My Line: Sin City -4

4) Milwaukee vs. 5) New Orleans
Previous Meeting: 29-21 Milwaukee
My Line: Milwaukee -7
Interestingly, 2 of the previous meetings were won by the lower seeds, and the other 2 games were pretty close.

 
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Originally posted by tomcollins
West:

1) Fresno vs. 8) SNK
Previous Meeting: 26-23 Fresno
My Line: Fresno -5

2) EZ vs. 7) Tijuana
Previous Meeting: 29-21 EZ
My Line: EZ -10

3) San Francisco vs. 6) LilWeezyAna
Previous Meeting: 24-13 LilWeezyAna
My Line: San Francisco -3

4) Minnesota vs. 5) Colorado
Previous Meeting: 10-9 Colorado
My Line: Colorado -1

East:
1) Columbus vs. 8) New York
Previous Meeting: 24-17 Columbus
My Line: Columbus -13

2) Naperville vs. 7) St. Louis
Previous Meeting: 35-7 Naperville
My Line: Naperville -16

3) Indianapolis vs. 6) Sin City
Previous Meeting: 20-17 Indianapolis
My Line: Sin City -4

4) Milwaukee vs. 5) New Orleans
Previous Meeting: 29-21 Milwaukee
My Line: Milwaukee -7
Interestingly, 2 of the previous meetings were won by the lower seeds, and the other 2 games were pretty close.



Your lines need work.
 
tomcollins
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Originally posted by secondeye
Originally posted by tomcollins

West:

1) Fresno vs. 8) SNK
Previous Meeting: 26-23 Fresno
My Line: Fresno -5

2) EZ vs. 7) Tijuana
Previous Meeting: 29-21 EZ
My Line: EZ -10

3) San Francisco vs. 6) LilWeezyAna
Previous Meeting: 24-13 LilWeezyAna
My Line: San Francisco -3

4) Minnesota vs. 5) Colorado
Previous Meeting: 10-9 Colorado
My Line: Colorado -1

East:
1) Columbus vs. 8) New York
Previous Meeting: 24-17 Columbus
My Line: Columbus -13

2) Naperville vs. 7) St. Louis
Previous Meeting: 35-7 Naperville
My Line: Naperville -16

3) Indianapolis vs. 6) Sin City
Previous Meeting: 20-17 Indianapolis
My Line: Sin City -4

4) Milwaukee vs. 5) New Orleans
Previous Meeting: 29-21 Milwaukee
My Line: Milwaukee -7
Interestingly, 2 of the previous meetings were won by the lower seeds, and the other 2 games were pretty close.



Your lines need work.


Post your own then.
 
Yeremiah
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We are going to the Super BBBowl
 
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tomcollins
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I just crunched some numbers based on a lot of assumptions to figure out the odds of winning the East:

Columbus: 2-1
Naperville: 3-2
Milwaukee: 15-1
Indianapolis: 40-1
Sin City: 60-1
New York: 60-1
St. Louis: 150-1
New Orleans: 200-1

I can run the numbers if you want to make different assumptions, just give me the odds you think each team will beat the other team.
 
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Just did the West:

EZ: 2-1
Fresno: 4-1
Minnesota 8-1
LilWeezyAna: 20-1
San Francisco: 30-1
SNK: 40-1
Colorado: 45-1
Tijuana: 50-1
 
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200-1.. I'll take those odds. Just going to need a couple pieces to click before game time. If that happens.. I think the odds will improve greatly. If not.. theres always next year.
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tomcollins
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3rd times the Charm? EZ and Naperville have been the #2 seed each season. Can they make it to the finals finally?
 
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Originally posted by tomcollins
Just did the West:

EZ: 2-1
Fresno: 4-1
Minnesota 8-1
LilWeezyAna: 20-1
San Francisco: 30-1
SNK: 40-1
Colorado: 45-1
Tijuana: 50-1


So we're 1 point underdogs in our Colorado game, but we have 5 times the chance to win the West

Like I said.. your lines needed work.. and I'd post my own as you said, but I'd actually want to do solid research on the opposing conference before I just threw something against the wall and made it stick, and unfortunately I don't have the time for that.. I have enough trouble figuring out how to beat teams like Fresno, EZ, Lil, SNK, SF, Tijuana and Colorado without going 1-8 on the East.

As for the West though.. I think it'd go something like this.. Keeping in mind that anyone here could probably win and it wouldn't be a huge shock outside of EZ and Tijuana. EZ just rarely loses to lesser talented teams and they have a significant edge of the Gutter.

West:

1) Fresno vs. 8) SNK
Previous Meeting: 26-23 Fresno
My Line: Fresno -3

2) EZ vs. 7) Tijuana
Previous Meeting: 29-21 EZ
My Line: EZ -14

3) San Francisco vs. 6) LilWeezyAna
Previous Meeting: 24-13 LilWeezyAna
My Line: LilWeezyAna -5

4) Minnesota vs. 5) Colorado
Previous Meeting: 10-9 Colorado
My Line: Minnesota -10

If you wonder why I'd say we were such a big favorite over a team that beat us, all you really have to do is look at past games. We had never lost to any team in the Colorado franchise position before that game, and we lost experimenting on some weird defense and offensive plays that directly led to a wide open TD (the only one of the game) and lost fumbles twice inside the red zone. We also had 11 sacks. That game without the turnovers or that screwy TD probably leads to a 16-3 or 13-3 game.

That's not to say Colorado didn't earn the victory or can't win tomorrow.. but I think we can win a 10-0 type of game.. or we could win a 24-14 game.. or even a 35-24 type game.. I don't know how it's going to play out.. I know we're 15 points higher on chemistry than we were and we've been playing much better offensively. I also know Colorado is going to be ready to stop our pass rush this time and try to continue the success teams have had passing on us.

We might turn it over 5 times like we did last year to Fresno and lose by 10 too.. but if this game gets simmed by Bort 100 times.. I think the average mean is going to be MN by 10.
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Originally posted by tomcollins
West:

East:
1) Columbus vs. 8) New York
Previous Meeting: 24-17 Columbus
My Line: Columbus -13

2) Naperville vs. 7) St. Louis
Previous Meeting: 35-7 Naperville
My Line: Naperville -16

3) Indianapolis vs. 6) Sin City
Previous Meeting: 20-17 Indianapolis
My Line: Sin City -4

4) Milwaukee vs. 5) New Orleans
Previous Meeting: 29-21 Milwaukee
My Line: Milwaukee -7
Interestingly, 2 of the previous meetings were won by the lower seeds, and the other 2 games were pretty close.



Just to show you how little I know about the East, and in fairness so you can crack on how little I know about your conference.. here's my lines with just what I've seen from scrimmages against teams.

1) Columbus vs. 8) New York
Previous Meeting: 24-17 Columbus
My Line: Columbus -21 (49-28)

2) Naperville vs. 7) St. Louis
Previous Meeting: 35-7 Naperville
My Line: Naperville -25 (35-10)

3) Indianapolis vs. 6) Sin City
Previous Meeting: 20-17 Indianapolis
My Line: Indianapolis -3 (13-10)

4) Milwaukee vs. 5) New Orleans
Previous Meeting: 29-21 Milwaukee
My Line: Milwaukee -1 (24-23 missed XP!)
 
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Originally posted by secondeye

If you wonder why I'd say we were such a big favorite over a team that beat us, all you really have to do is look at past games. We had never lost to any team in the Colorado franchise position before that game, and we lost experimenting on some weird defense and offensive plays that directly led to a wide open TD (the only one of the game) and lost fumbles twice inside the red zone. We also had 11 sacks. That game without the turnovers or that screwy TD probably leads to a 16-3 or 13-3 game.


What isn't known is that we were experimenting on offense as well, yours was the first game we attempted to use the offensive AI, and just got a new D coordinator.

There are a number of other factors if you're comparing other games, like holding Fresno to its lowest point total thus far in the season, or the fact that our chemistry is now at its highest point in the season...

But feel free to ignore those.
 
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Originally posted by Dome Patrol 51
200-1.. I'll take those odds. Just going to need a couple pieces to click before game time. If that happens.. I think the odds will improve greatly. If not.. theres always next year.


well, looks like those pieces arent going to happen in time. I've paid for the flex.. just havent received them yet (and its always taken less than 1 min). Ah well.. we're comin for ya Beermen, regardless of lvl. We want yer beer!
 
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Good game Indy. Too many fumbles.
 
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good game sin city. You made a good run at the end.
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