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Whenever I boost this season I will have spd, agi, and vis at the soft cap with enough left over SP to take either strength or tackling to the soft cap as well.

Strength and Tackling are both at 35 right now. If I am playing LOLB then which one should I soft cap first?

Strength imo.

Tackling is more important as far as not missing tackles, but strength will help you get off of more blocks...

Neither. Add some to confidence. Linebackers have to be beasts...

never add to confidence unless you have all of your other attributes to the soft cap at least...never. same goes for jumping and catching

new lb, r you sure that you need to avoid confidence?



Player Attributes
Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 21.32 Blocking: 11
Speed: 17 Tackling: 25.3
Agility: 18.32 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 11 Catching: 11
Stamina: 23.32 Carrying: 8
Vision: 20.36 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 12.32 Punting: 9

Originally posted by roake0331
new lb, r you sure that you need to avoid confidence?

It's not that you avoid confidence, however what confidence does is allow your guy to avoid tanking in a game after a few bad plays (getting pancaked, missing a tackle, etc). However, the reason most folks put confidence down on the priority list is that you first have to be capable of making GOOD plays.

For example:
* if you lack the speed to catch a runner, great...you won't pay worse because you got beat.
* if you lack the TCK to bring down a power back, great you won't get down because that's your 5th missed tackle this game.
* perhaps you lack the STR to stand up to the lead blocking FB and you get pancaked! Great, you notice all the pretty clouds as you lie on your back and look up at the sky! Hey, that one looks like Mickey Mouse!

So, what difference does it make if you keep your morale if you can't make good plays.

So, once you get to the point where you are making great plays most of the time, you don't want your guy to tank because he makes one bad play.

It's a bit easier to think about it in terms of other positions, let's use a WR. Take two WR's, one who has decent catching the other who has decent confidence. Well, the guy with decent catching is gonna catch some balls. He's also going to get into funks if he makes a drop early and suck the rest of the game. The guy with high confidence is just gonna suck regardless, but his in-game morale will stay high!

So you see where that's going? You have to be a play maker before you worry about low confidence that kills your play making ability.

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.All I know is I have seen a 0.3 point increase in confidence from nightly training move my LB's rush defense scouting bar. Nothing else changed other than that to explain the increase. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Bort made confidence have some level of direct impact on your chance to make a tackle. It would make sense since a player that attacks and doesn't hesitate (due to lack of confidence) is going to be a better tackler than someone who is "tackling scared." You can be the biggest, strongest and fastest guy on the field but if you sit back on your heels and wait for the ball carrier to come to you rather than aggressively meeting him head on you probably aren't the best tackler you can be.

Now I do realize the scouting bars are FAR from the end-all be-all indicator of ability, but I had always assumed that the overall bar is affected mostly by stats that INDIRECTLY help you play better like stamina and confidence while the other 2 bars are dictated mostly by stats that DIRECTLY impact those actions like strength and tackling. Seeing confidence move the rush defense bar made me question if it maybe had a direct impact on tackling (in addition to the indirect effect it has by influencing morale and thefore the bonus/penalty your get from your morale). After that I got my confidence up to 30 to see if it helps cut down on misses. It seems like Bort is trying to encourage more balanced builds rather than ignoring some stats to pump other way high so I am trying make sure that any skill I could conceivably use on a regular basis is relatively high just in case.

I have seen confidence move the pass rusher bar on my DT, too.

DOn't know if it means anything, but I agree that it might play some part.

I think confidence plays its part...in fact I've seen it play its prt statistically...

what I am trying to sa about not spending skill points on confidence is that it is not necessary...at all.

train those minor skills. spend one season training one attribute to a certain goal (25 to 30) and use all of your leveling skill points to boost the attributes that must go higher than 30...you get more bang for your buck this way.

Strength over Tackling... Stren should be softcap, it gets u past the blocks.
Tackling could be level 35 and you won't miss.

Originally posted by Kellysmash
Strength over Tackling... Stren should be softcap, it gets u past the blocks.
Tackling could be level 35 and you won't miss.

I totally disagree. Str is overrated. How do you get past blocks from linemen with 60+ str. Its a battle you cant win. I would softcap tackling and and focus on agi, vis & spd. Then theres the fumble issue. Supposedly str should help causing fumbles. Let me say this. I have a lvl 23 LOLB with 26 str and mid 30ies tackling. I have the most fumbles on my team (4) and I use wrap-up...

All my fumbles are due to are due to a high agi score.

Originally posted by Heartattack_man
Originally posted by Kellysmash

Strength over Tackling... Stren should be softcap, it gets u past the blocks.
Tackling could be level 35 and you won't miss.

I totally disagree. Str is overrated. How do you get past blocks from linemen with 60+ str. Its a battle you cant win. I would softcap tackling and and focus on agi, vis & spd. Then theres the fumble issue. Supposedly str should help causing fumbles. Let me say this. I have a lvl 23 LOLB with 26 str and mid 30ies tackling. I have the most fumbles on my team (4) and I use wrap-up...

All my fumbles are due to are due to a high agi score.

Str helps take down power backs, less missed tackles. It supplements tackling in that case.

Originally posted by PackMan97
Originally posted by roake0331

new lb, r you sure that you need to avoid confidence?

It's not that you avoid confidence, however what confidence does is allow your guy to avoid tanking in a game after a few bad plays (getting pancaked, missing a tackle, etc). However, the reason most folks put confidence down on the priority list is that you first have to be capable of making GOOD plays.



LOL, thats the way I look at..... just don't miss any tackles!