Warrior General Games

I've noticed that on many teams, it seems that one CB will rarely see a ball thrown his way. I am assuming that he keeps his man covered too tightly. My question is this, have any CBs in this situation tried playing loose, hoping the QB sees the man open and get the pick. Also, any other insight would be welcome as well.

if you have good speed/agility/vision u might be able to jump the route and get a int

Has anybody else noticed that the reaction time of CB's overall is a lot slower than it was last season?

Originally posted by Fat Banana
Has anybody else noticed that the reaction time of CB's overall is a lot slower than it was last season?

Yes. It also seems even when blanketing the WR they can still catch it.

It is also amazing that we have put up almost the exact same stats this year scary close.

I know teams that did it last season, but like they said before, the huge need for agility has downplayed the effectiveness of luring the QB.

Originally posted by Fat Banana
Has anybody else noticed that the reaction time of CB's overall is a lot slower than it was last season?

Well Bort reduced the reaction time of CB's so maybe thats the reason.

Originally posted by pdxVizsla
Originally posted by Fat Banana

Has anybody else noticed that the reaction time of CB's overall is a lot slower than it was last season?

Well Bort reduced the reaction time of CB's so maybe thats the reason.

Are you sure about that?

Originally posted by MattMan Firespot
Originally posted by pdxVizsla

Originally posted by Fat Banana


Has anybody else noticed that the reaction time of CB's overall is a lot slower than it was last season?

Well Bort reduced the reaction time of CB's so maybe thats the reason.

Are you sure about that?

well known fact

maybe this will help:

Originally posted by Bort
Just wanted to post letting everybody know I haven't been around posting much today because I've been running tons of tests and modifying stuff to try and address this. I did a dump of the whole live database, so I'm able to test with any currently live teams (well, at least as they existed a day ago).

I've found a few things so far:

Fast CB's back up too fast compared to slow WR's on streak routes, due to the fact their their acceleration is a constant. I've made them match acceleration in this case and it seems to work so far. I've put a 20 speed 20 agility guy against a 70 speed 50 agility CB and the CB is all over him in general.

Agile WR's don't have a way to fake out equally agile CB's and get open. I'm increasing the effect of the head fake and juke SA's, and adding some reduced reaction time for defenders based on vision and agility and coverage distance. The result is that on some plays the CB will stay with the WR and on others he will not make the turn with the receiver until a split second too late.

CB's were basically getting an immediate jump on the ball when thrown. I'm adding a delay on the jump based on vision agility and coverage distance. The result is that sometimes the CB gets a great jump on the ball and knocks it down while other times he waits a split second too long and doesn't get there in time. Combined with the above = botched coverage, basically.

Fast CB's with poor agility playing on close vs Fast WR's often dash forward at the snap to get within the "close" cushion and are then unable to turn around quick enough to keep up with the speedy WR. I've made them back up a little at the snap instead and wait for the WR to make his move.

QB's with decent vision hardly ever miss an open man on a checkdown, which means they will ALWAYS take advantage of the situation. I'm making them slightly more likely to miss the open guy unless they have really high vision.

Risk calculations did not take the catching ability of the receiver into account as a very big part of the calculation. Being open is the major part. I'm tweaking that a little to be willing to pass to a guy if he's just way better than his defender, even if he's not wide open.

Anyway, just an update because I know people are waiting on this and I wanted to let everybody know I'm working on it. I want to make sure it's right before pushing it out there, though!

Also my CB deflects alot of passes every game but most still wind up in the recievers hands. Does anyone else have that prob?

Originally posted by kentrol72
Also my CB deflects alot of passes every game but most still wind up in the recievers hands. Does anyone else have that prob?

haha ya. One game I deflected it, the WR caught it, and beat safety coverage for a 20 yard TD.

Doesnt that bite. lol I've already suggested a seperate stat Swat pass, for a successful batting away of the ball and keep PD for just that type of situation.
I'm gonna load up on Jumping and Catching to see if I get more INT's and successful PD's

Originally posted by fictionmike
Originally posted by MattMan Firespot

Originally posted by pdxVizsla


Originally posted by Fat Banana



Has anybody else noticed that the reaction time of CB's overall is a lot slower than it was last season?

Well Bort reduced the reaction time of CB's so maybe thats the reason.

Are you sure about that?

well known fact


Obviously not THAT well known. I dont think it was completely necessary because of the new agility changes. They were designed with WRs in mind but it ends up effecting CBs much more. WRs only make cuts and hardly ever completely stop their momentum, while CBs stop-and-go 2 or 3 times per play. The reaction nerf is uneccessary if you ask me, the agility changes made it hard enough.
Now WRs catch balls anywhere near them and shutdown CBs are hard-pressed to successfully defend passes.

Mattman -"Now WRs catch balls anywhere near them and shutdown CBs are hard-pressed to successfully defend passes." Is this something we need to bring to Bort"s attention?
As far as tackling CB's are getting it done but INTs are the only sure way to keep it out of the WR's hands

Would more strength make swatting balls better? Because even with 5 in swat ball the receiver still catches it every time it's deflected.