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I was only testing this out to see if it has any use, we had a huge advantage at every position and I wanted to try lofty pass just to see if it would work. Ended up we damn near lost the game because of it.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=120609

Level 14 QB throwing to a level 13 and level 10 WR, with two 8s as third and forth option. Both have great builds, with high catch mid agility and over 40 speed.

Just look at the levels of the defensive backs and how many deflections they got.

Logically... jumping would be a key attribute. Of the three WRs you have that I can see their builds... no jumping.

Was it actually implemented? I thought he was working things out in D-Leagues first before shifting over to the rest of the leagues.

No, it's been an option since the first game of the season in advanced tactics.

I think what Enkidu98 was saying is that even if it's been there, that doesnt mean we can actually use it yet. Kind of like the AI's for a while.

No it was tested in the D league on the last day of scrimmages, it's been an option for QBs in real leagues since the first real week of the season. Was in the recent upgrade discussion.

thanks for the info, this is what I saw


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- I've added another option for QB passing - pass style. This will allow the QB to determine how he throws the ball.

I am just about to roll this and the new pass rushing code out to the D-League server to start with. If it all works out there, I'll sync it over to the other leagues.

copy and paste from the announcements.

Exactly.

It's there, but just because its there doesn;t mean its being called/used by the SIM engine.

Per Bort, its being used in the D-Leagues only at present as he tests it. No further announcements from Bort indicating it has been moved into regular league play.

You can set the option, but it means nothing presently.

You just had a crappy game. It happens. I've had those days myself.

Originally posted by Enkidu98
Exactly.

It's there, but just because its there doesn;t mean its being called/used by the SIM engine.

Per Bort, its being used in the D-Leagues only at present as he tests it. No further announcements from Bort indicating it has been moved into regular league play.

You can set the option, but it means nothing presently.

You just had a crappy game. It happens. I've had those days myself.

i see your QB has a game tomorrow. Wanna put your money with your mouth is and put your setting to lofty for it.

Judging by what Bort said he hasn't implemented it into the non-D-leagues yet.

Think I wrote this on another thread you made... but this is how I see the new seetings

Originally posted by smallbugger
The setting is more about your WR's and the competition than the QB...

if you have high catching guys you want to do bullet passes that they can catch while covered...

Loft makes it an easy to catch, but also EASY TO DEFEND pass. So you don't need a jumping Wr... you need a quick WR that probably sacrificed catching to get more open/space against a CB.

So if you have high catching Wr's you do bullets... if you have ultrafast, but low catching WRs... then do loft if you think they can shake the CB's they are against.



To add something else... you would need a high vision QB to throw lofty as well to best find the open WR... if you expect good coverage of your WR's... probably better to go balanced/hard

Originally posted by Ilok
Originally posted by Enkidu98

Exactly.

It's there, but just because its there doesn;t mean its being called/used by the SIM engine.

Per Bort, its being used in the D-Leagues only at present as he tests it. No further announcements from Bort indicating it has been moved into regular league play.

You can set the option, but it means nothing presently.

You just had a crappy game. It happens. I've had those days myself.

i see your QB has a game tomorrow. Wanna put your money with your mouth is and put your setting to lofty for it.

I didn't see this until after the game played. Even if I had I wouldn't have changed the setting because it would have made our blowout much worse as their defenders weren't strong enough to beat our receivers. We won 149-0 and I was playing relaxed.

Instead of bristling like a little demented egomaniac though, you might want to read the frikken 'Announcements' forum.

Here's the link to the announcements forum.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread_list.pl?forum_id=1

In the announcements forum, there is a thread, it is called 'Recent Updates' here is a link to that thread.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2262

In that thread Bort and BORT ONLY posts. The most recent updates get noted at the end. The note re: Bullet/Medium/Loft was posted to Page #5 So to be even nicer.. I'll link you to that page:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2262&page=5

Now, on this page #5, Bort says the following.. I'll quote it for you too moron.

Originally posted by Bort
- I've added another option for QB passing - pass style. This will allow the QB to determine how he throws the ball.

I am just about to roll this and the new pass rushing code out to the D-League server to start with. If it all works out there, I'll sync it over to the other leagues.

Now, within that quote I did do something. I made something BOLD and Italics so that your poor reading and reasoning faculties might be drawn to the relevant portion of his post.

Now.. I don't know about your command of the English Language, but where I come from as a native speaker saying he's going to implement it to the D-Leagues and if it works out will roll it out to the other leagues, means that its in the D-Leagues and not the other leagues, until he states he has rolled it out to them.

Just because the _option_ exists in your Advanced Tactics, doesn't mean it's being used. If you think it does, then you have a very poor grasp of programming.

Maybe I'm crazy.... Maybe not...

Admittedly, this page (#5 above) is not the last page of the Recent Updates thread. Now, as of 05 August 2008 @ 1015 hours, Mountain Standard Time, the last page is Page #6.

Here's the link for the retarded.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2262&page=6

On this page Bort only has two posts. Neither of which states he has rolled out the Bullet/Medium/Loft code to the regular leagues.

One can logically presume that the changes are still only in the D-Leagues until Bort says otherwise.

PS - If you don't know this guy: http://goallineblitz.com/game/home.pl?user_id=78834 You two really ought to get together. Except I think that the black hole created by putting the two vacuums between each of your ears in so close proximity might actually cause the destruction of the planet.. So on second thought... stay away from 'TheWiz'.

Originally posted by Enkidu98


Now, on this page #5, Bort says the following.. I'll quote it for you too moron.

Originally posted by Bort

- I've added another option for QB passing - pass style. This will allow the QB to determine how he throws the ball.

I am just about to roll this and the new pass rushing code out to the D-League server to start with. If it all works out there, I'll sync it over to the other leagues.

Now, within that quote I did do something. I made something BOLD and Italics so that your poor reading and reasoning faculties might be drawn to the relevant portion of his post.

Harsh post dude. Nowhere in Bort's post did he specifically state WHEN he'd be syncing it over. His post could have meant he'd test it in D leagues then sync it to the others in a week or so. Or it could have meant he'd upload the code, then as long as everything is still running fine, immediately go sync it over. I certainly agree that just becasue it's there it doesn't mean it's in effect, but based off Bort's word usage theres no way to tell whether or not it is.

Originally posted by mgbl3
Originally posted by Enkidu98



Now, on this page #5, Bort says the following.. I'll quote it for you too moron.

Originally posted by Bort


- I've added another option for QB passing - pass style. This will allow the QB to determine how he throws the ball.

I am just about to roll this and the new pass rushing code out to the D-League server to start with. If it all works out there, I'll sync it over to the other leagues.

Now, within that quote I did do something. I made something BOLD and Italics so that your poor reading and reasoning faculties might be drawn to the relevant portion of his post.

Harsh post dude. Nowhere in Bort's post did he specifically state WHEN he'd be syncing it over. His post could have meant he'd test it in D leagues then sync it to the others in a week or so. Or it could have meant he'd upload the code, then as long as everything is still running fine, immediately go sync it over. I certainly agree that just becasue it's there it doesn't mean it's in effect, but based off Bort's word usage theres no way to tell whether or not it is.

I don't think anyone in here is picking up what Enkidu98 is laying down...

Those post from bort are from the most recent updates that he has done. That being said, go to the last page of updates... http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2262&page=6 .....now look at the last update. I am pretty sure that no where in there does it say he has rolled this out into any other leagues yet. I understand what your saying mgbl3, he could roll it out at anytime, however, if he die, then that would be considered an update and he would post it in there.

Well Enkidu98, since I'm in a master program in a liberal arts field, I'm pretty sure I can grasp the english language perfectly. In fact, posting personal attacks on a message board kind of shows a lack of intelligence, lack of human decently and a lack of maturity. Especially personal attacks which were unprovoked.

Like it was stated earlier, Bort said he was going to test the setting out in D League first, he never stated when he will implement it into other leagues. I ran a test, switching only one setting. Playing about the same level defense, I went from a completion percentage above 50 percent with four deflections to a completion percentage of 28 percent with 14 deflections by trying out lofty pass. My QB and my WRs are all well over the average level of the league and the team I ran the test on was one of the lowest level teams in the league.

I'm guessing I'm talking with a child, so I'm not going to go any further into this.