Fran Roark - FTA -
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=34344I believe that there are three facets of the game that a defensive player participates in: rush defense, pass defense, special teams. Honestly, I don't really think that your suggested rubric does a great job at balancing these out, and rewarding/punishing players appropriately.
But as we all know, it's hard to judge a great CB.
Originally posted by jprietman
Obviously this one is more complicated, as it should be because it's a very complicated position to judge. Here's my best...
Every 10 plays: 1 point
Every tackle (doesn't matter who it's on): -1 point
Every pass deflected: 1 point
Every tackle on a RB: 2 points
Every tackle on a receiver you're not assigned (man coverage only): 1 point
Every interception: 3 points
Every 10 INT Return Yards: 1 point
INT is returned for a TD: 6 points
Every sack: 2 points
Every TD Given Up: -2 points
Every missed tackle: -2 points
Anyone who wants to enter post here now, with your players name and link.
YOU will enter your score each week in that same Post by editing it.
You can strengthen your claim by posting the play-by-play links on all your tackles against RBs, non-assigned receivers, etc.
(edited to include sacks, TDs, and missed tackles)Stuff I agree with:
PD, +1
INT, +3
INT TD, +6
Sack, +2
TD allowed, -2
Alternative suggestions:
1) Again, I like the idea of tackles being worth 0 points as a base. It's an extreme example, but would we say that the NE Patriots defender "failed" on Tyree's catch in the Super Bowl? No, it was simply a great play. And making tackles 0 means that much less math.
1a) Tackles on rushing plays, +1.
1b) Tackles on another player's receiver, or in a zone defense, +1. Many of these may be "right place right time," but to negate them means dismissing a play where a CB runs across the field to make a great play or tackling a RB out of the backfield.
1c) Special teams tackles, +1. Some might complain that this benefits special teamers too much, but I would say that most guys covering kicks aren't starters, and that the number of opportunities for a starting CB to make a play far outweigh the chances for a backup. It shouldn't make a *huge* difference, but still rewards someone for making a play.
1d) All missed tackles (passing, rushing, special teams), -1
1e) Allowing another player to tackle your man, -1 (might as well be a missed tackle; but if you make a missed tackle and another guy gets him, it's still just -1)
2) Playing the ball.
2a) Forced fumble, +1
2b) Recovered fumble, +1
3) Defensive scoring
3a) FR TD, +6
3b) Safety, +2
4) No points for being in plays. Of all the suggested stats, this is the least useful in determining effectiveness.
5) If you guys are willing to invest a little time, then maybe we could look at stats like completion percentage against your player.
5a) 0-20%, +2
5b) 21-40%, +1
5c) 41-60%, 0
5d) 61-80%, -1
5e) 81-100%, -2
To illustrate my proposal-
CB X plays in a game, and has the following stats:
He is thrown at 10 times. He intercepts 1 (+3), swats 2 (+2), and there are 2 incompletions. The other five passes are caught for a percentage of 50% (+0). He makes three tackles (+0). He misses 1 (-1), and is straight up beat for a TD on the other play (-2).
For passing defense, he's at +2.
In other action, he makes 2 tackles on rushing plays (+2), but misses 1 (-1). He also makes a tackle on a pass to the RB in the flat (+1). He makes one special teams tackle (+1), and forces a fumble on another play (+1).
For those plays, he gains +4. Altogether, he's at +6 for the game.
EDIT:
Following the initially suggested rubric means CB X gets so many points for plays (let's say +4).
On pass defense, he gets +5 points for INT/PD, -3 for three tackles, -2 for missing a tackle, and -2 for giving up a TD. That's a total of -2 for pass defense.
On special teams, he makes one tackle (-1).
On rush defense, he makes 2 tackles (-2) on RBs (+4), and misses one (-2). On rush defense he's at 0.
For tackling (-1) the RB (+1) on a pass play, he gets 0. He is not rewarded for forcing a fumble.
All told, the points add up to +1.
