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I know I likely won't find this, but I'm looking for a good example of someone pumping agility much higher than speed...
We get tons of "how useful is strength" threads and it seems almost every player will have extreme speed regardless of the rest of their build. I was just curious to see exactly how beneficial it can be to outmatch CBs in agility and maybe be on par with their speed. Will you commonly fake them? Also, does agility help break tackles, or just help you avoid coverage so you don't have to?

References to plays of agility creating seperation would be ideal... I want to make a high agility WR but I'm afraid the outcome would be bad blocking, bad separation, and a heavy reliance on vision. I'd love for someone to prove otherwise.

Additionally.. I think a cool build would be:
Emphasis on Agility>Vision and Speed>Catching and Strength>Confidence

Not necessarily to be an all star on stats (I don't really care about having 200 yards a game run) but to be a well rounded, team playing WR that actually helps produce wins

I threw confidence in there because I feel that confidence would help you fake easier... it just seems it'd have more of a purpose in an agility related build where your success seems based a bit on luck

Any ideas?

I think agility higher then speed works best with DE's and DT's to break out of blocks.

But if your WR is getting blocked out of plays to often I would boost agility... but I think a WR with high speed should be able to avoid blocks as they have alot of space and time to work with

I know of a player with agility=speed

Originally posted by majorjello
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=242221

Every game that WR has 15+ Targets. Sometimes 20+. I've watch a bunch of play by plays and I don't even see where the agility kicks in.

Originally posted by ufshowboat
Originally posted by majorjello

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=242221

Every game that WR has 15+ Targets. Sometimes 20+. I've watch a bunch of play by plays and I don't even see where the agility kicks in.

I'm sort of going that direction with a WR. From the two games he's played so far, he's been targeted a ton as well. I believe that it's because being slow, he's the short route and the check off. Maybe the CB drops back so quickly that it creates a decent gap between the two players?

I have a WR with softcapped speed and agility and equipment in agility, giving it a 10-point advantage. He seems to play to the level of the competition - he gets almost nothing against worse teams (perhaps because others are beating the coverage deeper?) but has has best games when the offense is struggling with a tough D.

I just made a WR an hour ago, agility 20, speed 12, jumping 18. First game in a few hours, should be interesting.

Originally posted by Phasor
I just made a WR an hour ago, agility 20, speed 12, jumping 18. First game in a few hours, should be interesting.

Good results against higher level CBs, but watching the pbp, difficult to tell if it's a result of the build, as they seemed to always be playing far back rather than tight.

Yeah. I hope that mid way through next season he'll be better against close CB's, he's barely above average from what I've seen.

Okay, an update... I've finally added skill points, and I used them to put agility at 48. Since my equipment is in stam (until level 8 anyway, when I switch it to agi), that puts me at 48 agi, 20 speed, 14 vision, 12 catching, 16 jumping.

In my first game after adding the agi, I completed 2 receptions for an average of 8.8 yards. The plays I did though, looked very smooth, ie: I was always under the ball exactly in time and very easy to get open. This leads me to believe that agility is more of a recieving skill than a speedster skill, atleast as it is now.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=12143148
He seems to move well without losing hardly any speed. Perhaps a few SAs will enable him to do more with the agility.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=12144194
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=12144429
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=12145290

Unfortunately I only got 4 passes in the entire game, one was a crappy pass it seems, and another was a drop.

Also notice the opposing team's CB assigned to me is level 10 (I am 5), and the FS is 9.

My wr has alot more agi then speed

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=329500

Originally posted by majorjello
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=242221

His speed is so low that all that agility is pretty much wasted. I think the ideal "agility > speed" build would still have speed soft capped and agility be 60+. Probably good jumping too.

Agility probably helps the WR turn around to face/catch the ball. An in-agile receiver probably turns too slowly and it sails past him.