What you guys think? I think he wants to play and didn't want to retire but he got mad because Packers didn't try to get Moss. I think he should stay retired and let Rogers lead the team and if he does come back, I hope he comes back to the Vikings. But yeah, just my personal opinion.
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I hope he stays retired, or he just screwed the packers. I like rodgers alot. I really hope Brett stays away from the team, but hope he stills shows up for games and suchs. Let the new era start. Looking at the WRs the Pack's have, i think they are set for now.
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Originally posted by Dujoman
I hope he stays retired, or he just screwed the packers. I like rodgers alot. I really hope Brett stays away from the team, but hope he stills shows up for games and suchs. Let the new era start. Looking at the WRs the Pack's have, i think they are set for now.
Yeah, the packs have a good talented team and they are young. Rodgers played really well when Farve went down. I think it's Rodgers time now.
I hope he stays retired, or he just screwed the packers. I like rodgers alot. I really hope Brett stays away from the team, but hope he stills shows up for games and suchs. Let the new era start. Looking at the WRs the Pack's have, i think they are set for now.
Yeah, the packs have a good talented team and they are young. Rodgers played really well when Farve went down. I think it's Rodgers time now.
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The guy can still perform, so if he wants to play, let him play. He's been the face of the packers for a long time, but I'd make him fight for the position, not just give it to him.
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I know I am going to get some flack about this......but I still think Favre is one of the most overrated QBs that has ever played. I mean, he is a good QB, but he's not in the same league as the GREAT QBs of all time. And he is not even comparable to Manning or Brady.
I like watching Favre, and the Favre magic is always fun too, but, let's be honest here......he's really just very good....not great.
I like watching Favre, and the Favre magic is always fun too, but, let's be honest here......he's really just very good....not great.
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Cocky Mfer
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I would agree with that coyote. His toughness is unmatched as a QB and that's where a lot of the greatness talk comes from. He has a great passion for the game, but you are right. As far ranking him in the best QB's to play the game, I would put him in the top 30 or so (towards the bottom).
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Hmmm, let's see, when he won those MVP awards and super bowls, he had a VERY good team, including some of the best receivers in the league at the time. That's why they were dominant. Now, Manning and Brady have the best receivers or close to it, so they are going to be very good, because of the talent around them.
Favre took GB to the NFC title game with a team barely comparable to the teams he had when they won the Super Bowl. If that is not a great QB, then there are no great QB's.
Case in point also, Archie Manning was selected to the Pro Bowl one year over the Super Bowl winning QB, Roger Staubach, for having a great year passing because he had a good offensive team that year, but the defense sucked and they went 8-8 as a team. Had Archie had a team like the Cowboys or the Steelers in the days when he played, he would probably be listed in the top 5 QB's in the history of the NFL.
A QB becomes great because of the team he plays with. Period.
My 2 Cents
Favre took GB to the NFC title game with a team barely comparable to the teams he had when they won the Super Bowl. If that is not a great QB, then there are no great QB's.
Case in point also, Archie Manning was selected to the Pro Bowl one year over the Super Bowl winning QB, Roger Staubach, for having a great year passing because he had a good offensive team that year, but the defense sucked and they went 8-8 as a team. Had Archie had a team like the Cowboys or the Steelers in the days when he played, he would probably be listed in the top 5 QB's in the history of the NFL.
A QB becomes great because of the team he plays with. Period.
My 2 Cents
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As a Vikings fan, I can honestly say I could not care less. He was a gunslinger who threw up as many horrible passes as he did good passes and was bailed out by his receivers. But he could be clutch.
Lost all respect for him when he refused to mentor Rodgers.
I certainly will never miss all the Favre butt-kissing done by the talking heads in sports infotainment.
Lost all respect for him when he refused to mentor Rodgers.
I certainly will never miss all the Favre butt-kissing done by the talking heads in sports infotainment.
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coyote4848
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Originally posted by Odie
Hmmm, let's see, when he won those MVP awards and super bowls, he had a VERY good team, including some of the best receivers in the league at the time. That's why they were dominant. Now, Manning and Brady have the best receivers or close to it, so they are going to be very good, because of the talent around them.
Favre took GB to the NFC title game with a team barely comparable to the teams he had when they won the Super Bowl. If that is not a great QB, then there are no great QB's.
Case in point also, Archie Manning was selected to the Pro Bowl one year over the Super Bowl winning QB, Roger Staubach, for having a great year passing because he had a good offensive team that year, but the defense sucked and they went 8-8 as a team. Had Archie had a team like the Cowboys or the Steelers in the days when he played, he would probably be listed in the top 5 QB's in the history of the NFL.
A QB becomes great because of the team he plays with. Period.
My 2 Cents
He only won one SB, he was 3-5 in the playoffs and threw more INTs than any other QB in the history of the league......the history of the league! In 16 seasons, he has only passed a QB rating of 90 8 times.
2 years ago he threw 29 INTs with only 20 TDs......he has fumbled the ball over 100 times and lost over half of them(also worst in NFL history), his QB rating is 85 for his career.
Now, Montana......92 QB rating, 1/2 of the INTs and 1/2 of the fumbles.....it's not even close(and only one less season than Favre). All I'm saying is that Favre is not a Great QB......he is very good, but doesn't match up to the Great QBs.
Hmmm, let's see, when he won those MVP awards and super bowls, he had a VERY good team, including some of the best receivers in the league at the time. That's why they were dominant. Now, Manning and Brady have the best receivers or close to it, so they are going to be very good, because of the talent around them.
Favre took GB to the NFC title game with a team barely comparable to the teams he had when they won the Super Bowl. If that is not a great QB, then there are no great QB's.
Case in point also, Archie Manning was selected to the Pro Bowl one year over the Super Bowl winning QB, Roger Staubach, for having a great year passing because he had a good offensive team that year, but the defense sucked and they went 8-8 as a team. Had Archie had a team like the Cowboys or the Steelers in the days when he played, he would probably be listed in the top 5 QB's in the history of the NFL.
A QB becomes great because of the team he plays with. Period.
My 2 Cents
He only won one SB, he was 3-5 in the playoffs and threw more INTs than any other QB in the history of the league......the history of the league! In 16 seasons, he has only passed a QB rating of 90 8 times.
2 years ago he threw 29 INTs with only 20 TDs......he has fumbled the ball over 100 times and lost over half of them(also worst in NFL history), his QB rating is 85 for his career.
Now, Montana......92 QB rating, 1/2 of the INTs and 1/2 of the fumbles.....it's not even close(and only one less season than Favre). All I'm saying is that Favre is not a Great QB......he is very good, but doesn't match up to the Great QBs.
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Originally posted by jtwillis
i don't care either way because I'ma Bears fan and Favre can suck my butt.
I am a 49ers fan, and I would echo these comments. The Packers were our bane for a while (we suck now, so no more blaming it on one team, i.e. Packers, Cowboys, etc.).
I would also agree with the general sentiment expressed here about him. He was good at times, but also hurt his team a lot. Remember, he is the career leader in TDs AND INTs. Longevity will get you all kinds of awards, just ask Emmitt Smith. Do you really think he was better than Sweetness?
i don't care either way because I'ma Bears fan and Favre can suck my butt.
I am a 49ers fan, and I would echo these comments. The Packers were our bane for a while (we suck now, so no more blaming it on one team, i.e. Packers, Cowboys, etc.).
I would also agree with the general sentiment expressed here about him. He was good at times, but also hurt his team a lot. Remember, he is the career leader in TDs AND INTs. Longevity will get you all kinds of awards, just ask Emmitt Smith. Do you really think he was better than Sweetness?
Cocky Mfer
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Originally posted by jchenk
Originally posted by jtwillis
Longevity will get you all kinds of awards, just ask Emmitt Smith. Do you really think he was better than Sweetness?
or Barry Sanders?
Originally posted by jtwillis
Longevity will get you all kinds of awards, just ask Emmitt Smith. Do you really think he was better than Sweetness?
or Barry Sanders?
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Originally posted by Cocky Mfer
Originally posted by jchenk
Originally posted by jtwillis
Longevity will get you all kinds of awards, just ask Emmitt Smith. Do you really think he was better than Sweetness?
or Barry Sanders?
Agreed 100%.
Originally posted by jchenk
Originally posted by jtwillis
Longevity will get you all kinds of awards, just ask Emmitt Smith. Do you really think he was better than Sweetness?
or Barry Sanders?
Agreed 100%.
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