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So... Last season I OC'd a team in AAA (Harbor Hawks). We won the Pro Tourney and finished the regular season undefeated with the #1 offense in AAA. In rd2 of the playoffs the Hawks played the other team I OC (TSW). I did not make any adjustment for either side specifically for this game/opponent.

TSW won in a 28-25 upset (shout out to SN for a nice job on D for TSW!). Hawks has 100 more offensive yards but less points. https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=92620

Fast forward a couple weeks and I was unceremoniously fired on day1 as the Hawks OC, which I was thinking was perhaps a misunderstanding, but it turns out that I'm being accused of after 20 years of playing dotball to have chosen this moment to begin colluding and game throwing (in AAA in a game between 2 teams that have already earned Pro promotion).

So community, what do we think? Did I intentionally throw the game to make the Hawks lose and TSW win? Did I give Hawks a (bad AI) and give TSW a (good AI)?

My stance is of course that Brewnoe is a crazy asshole of a person for a lot of reasons, one of which being he watched a AAA playoff game 12 times.


Originally posted by Brewnoe
The TSW game was either collusion, or extreme naivety. Go watch the game. I have a dozen times.

See how Seattle put out a defense no DC in their right mind would use, unless they knew exactly what was coming. 7 dots on one side, 4 on the other. And that's being generous as the off side safety was sprinting towards play side off the snap on the first fucking tick, in a immediate zone across the entire damn field. Leaving just the NT/DT, DE on that side, and a single cover CB v WR. 8 vs 3. NO one does that, no one. That's not Seattle being some kind of genius, that's having the other team's playbook, at your finger tips - where the O here was a clone of the one you ran on the same team. Though I'm guessing the one on TSW actually had some 3rd / 4th quarter time management logic, score based calling, unlike the bare bones preset looking one on Hawks?

So no, I don't buy for a fucking second that the loss was legit. Either Seattle spied on your tactics, and saw you made no changes at all on TSW, and made the HUGE gamble that you were doing the same thing on Hawks too. Or you told them you were making no changes for either team. And didn't make the same communication here. And that would be collusion.

As far as the rest of it? I don't like the "even if I had put any effort in, wouldn't have mattered" vibe. Yes there is randomness in dotball. But letting opposing DCs clamp down and hoping auto-adjust finds a hole for you? Seems lazy, yes. That is the word I would use. If you were self-scouting, why was the SB Big counter sweep still getting called? It averaged 2.1 yards for the season (excluding CPU games), and had almost a dozen TFLs? Or the scatFB being a 100% passing tell? Or the Strong I having basically one play out of the formation, letting DCs TEE off on it.

So TL;DR - yes, I told G I'd pull my dots when their contract was done, if you were back as OC. Because I have zero faith you would put any effort in. And yes, your OAI and packages were deleted by me, before G removed you. Back on Day -3. Not Day 1.

I'm in the middle of tax season, as a tax accountant IRL. I'm still making the time to log in, at midnight ...

Double post since dotball forums are glitchy, afk mods can you delete the other thread?

If there's a new cheating scandal can I name it?

I'm trying to brainstorm but drawing a blank. Definitely deserves better than PooPeeGate. Never liked PooPeeGate. Didn't really capture the essence of the cheating.

It's my team (TSW) and nobody told me about this. WTF

are we that much of a narcissist to post a conversation from somewhere...needing compliance from the general community that no one really cares about?

I had to laugh at Brewnoe calling me out. That said, I want to be clear about something.

The only thing I adjusted specifically for Harbor was how one of the HBs was tagged. The defensive scheme itself is the same base defense I run against everyone. I make normal in-season tweaks depending on what’s working or not, but I don’t build a custom game plan for a specific opponent.

Sounds like a sore loser to me.

Why not run your offenses as normal. I guess i don’t understand the difference.

You knew what could happen and allowed it to screw shit up.

Not completely innocent

Owners and other coaches could maybe look at stuff from time to time. I know they are busy with Stadium building and promotions but maybe take an interest in coordinating. Another big reason this game is dead, everyone would like to lazily build dots and watch games than have to work the AI’s constantly. One little eff up on an ai and you’re suddenly the worst agent in GLB.



Mostly just referring to myself in all this because I rage and never wanna login again anytime I mess up a preset. All risk, some reward.

1 2 3 4 I declare a thumb war

Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
are we that much of a narcissist to post a conversation from somewhere...needing compliance from the general community that no one really cares about?

Are we really going to clutch our pearls about someone daring to make a post in relatively dead dotball forums? If you don't care, clock it to make it read and then move on.

I don't get accused of cheating historically, so it felt like an appropriate topic for GLB main.

Originally posted by coachingubigr
If there's a new cheating scandal can I name it?

Yes sir, you're in charge. And I appreciate that you're taking this job seriously. I agree PooPeeGate wasn't a good enough job by the community at jaming the nearly year long scandal that fucked over everyone.

Originally posted by melon27
Why not run your offenses as normal. I guess i don’t understand the difference.

You knew what could happen and allowed it to screw shit up.

Not completely innocent



I think you are confused. I did run my offense as normal, same as the game I beat Florida Frenzy to win the Pro Tourney.

Originally posted by madmal
It's my team (TSW) and nobody told me about this. WTF

This was hot off the presses once I learned we were being accused of cheating late last night, since that's the only way lowly TSW could have beaten the Hawks apparently. Hawks roster is allegedly unbeatable without cheating, evidenced by normal circumstances like their blowout defeat in wk1 of Pro to HHWC.

Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
are we that much of a narcissist to post a conversation from somewhere...needing compliance from the general community that no one really cares about?

100%

Originally posted by POOPERDOG7
100%

Do you agree with the takeaways from your friend and teammate Brewnoe in the OP?

The last couple paragraphs accusing me of being a shitty OC is a terrible take, but fine for people to have that opinion.

But I'm asking you, more on your thoughts of the first few paragraphs accusing me and SN of some sort of collusion/game throwing scandal.