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Originally posted by coachingubigr
All of my rolls are trash. Come on bort

Improve your chances then and stop rolling so early. It's wild to me how many people start shopping at level 41. I start at 61 (which is still early) and that's because I'm doing no planning at all. When you start at level 41 you're spending 30% more bonus tokens finding items. If you start in the 50s you're spending about 20% more. Save your bonus tokens and get better rolls at level 61 or even better 71.

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Originally posted by tremele
Improve your chances then and stop rolling so early. It's wild to me how many people start shopping at level 41. I start at 61 (which is still early) and that's because I'm doing no planning at all. When you start at level 41 you're spending 30% more bonus tokens finding items. If you start in the 50s you're spending about 20% more. Save your bonus tokens and get better rolls at level 61 or even better 71.

This is generally how I do it. I start at 51 for my first 2 pieces when I am not real picky on which % gear I'm looking for then finish up later on if I am looking for something specific. Or for certain dots just make the last one or two.

However, the store is meant to be difficult, it's part of the gamble you take.

No shopping until level 72 for any of my dots.

fwiw... I start rolling at L41

There's a good amount of +3 pieces, and also 5% pieces.

The longer you wait, the more they tend to get contaminated. Like you'll see the 5% piece you want with a +2 Punting attached to it or whatever.

Also L41 is about the time you need to start doing math for switching down to Light training, if you're doing 4 AEQs. If 4 AEQs isn't happening for you, you can still salvage a good 3 AEQ build, and try again at L51.

Originally posted by Kurt Davey
No shopping until level 72 for any of my dots.

Look at Mr. Discipline over here.

Originally posted by TJ Spikes
fwiw... I start rolling at L41

There's a good amount of +3 pieces, and also 5% pieces.

The longer you wait, the more they tend to get contaminated. Like you'll see the 5% piece you want with a +2 Punting attached to it or whatever.

Also L41 is about the time you need to start doing math for switching down to Light training, if you're doing 4 AEQs. If 4 AEQs isn't happening for you, you can still salvage a good 3 AEQ build, and try again at L51.




Are you suggesting the rolls are better quality at lower levels? That kind of contradicts this thread though right?

No math needed for 4 pieces of AEQ. shoot for around 1200 BT by level 61 and you'll get 4 pieces and still shop. Or you can save even more by waiting until level 71 to shop.

There's some sort of trade-off involved. IF you wait until level 72 as one well-respected builder suggested, that gives you almost zero time to adjust your build. If you start rolling at level 41, you're going to get a lot of bad rolls.

I'd suggest taking a few rolls at level 51, and then some more at 61.

Originally posted by tremele
Are you suggesting the rolls are better quality at lower levels? That kind of contradicts this thread though right?


In the Bort sense, yes, in a way.

The longer you wait, the Bort shop will do you the "favor" of attaching attributes to % gear more and more often, to make the AEQ "better"

Now you're fighting 2 variables. You have to get the right +3 on the right 5%.

If you score a blank +3, you save 50 BTs. If you get a blank 5%, you save 75 BTs. It's technically "worse" gear, but it's a lot safer to take this approach IMO.

Originally posted by TJ Spikes
In the Bort sense, yes, in a way.

The longer you wait, the Bort shop will do you the "favor" of attaching attributes to % gear more and more often, to make the AEQ "better"

Now you're fighting 2 variables. You have to get the right +3 on the right 5%.

If you score a blank +3, you save 50 BTs. If you get a blank 5%, you save 75 BTs. It's technically "worse" gear, but it's a lot safer to take this approach IMO.



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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
In the Bort sense, yes, in a way.

The longer you wait, the Bort shop will do you the "favor" of attaching attributes to % gear more and more often, to make the AEQ "better"

Now you're fighting 2 variables. You have to get the right +3 on the right 5%.

If you score a blank +3, you save 50 BTs. If you get a blank 5%, you save 75 BTs. It's technically "worse" gear, but it's a lot safer to take this approach IMO.



I understand how shopping works, the question is more towards the statement you made about shopping at lower level is better quality items. Is there any data that backs this? The rest of what you talk about supports shopping at later levels as well.

The reality is when you shop at level 41 you're going to get less items which in turn hurts your chances of getting something good. You're going to spend more bonus tokens vs some who waits until a later level. However, if you get better items at lower levels than this would be irrelevant. I had not heard that before though and seriously have my doubts.

Shop at 31 for the first piece, 41 for the rest.