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Which means as many options as humanly possible for GLB Classic... i.e. OPC, un-nerfed DPC, custom slots for everyone, callable fair catches, you know, all the stuff the hardcore players want.

I realize I probably just wasted a couple of minutes typing this up, but if you don't have a dream what do you got?

yello gimme a nice rock to bang my head on........ mebbe he can hook you up too!
They've got ~21k flex left to get my attention with continuing improvements to this game or my next $ goes to another game.

2 minutes of your life you can never get back.

OPC would be awful. It is everything any hardcore gamer who knows what the fuck is going on doesn't want to see.

Definitely bring back the full DPC.

No to custom slots everywhere as that is just retarded.

Make an AI for fair catches and not a slider. Fuck sliders.

If you are gonna un nerf the DPC, more formations and plays. Fuck it lets have a party.

Originally posted by bhall43
OPC would be awful. It is everything any hardcore gamer who knows what the fuck is going on doesn't want to see.

Definitely bring back the full DPC.

No to custom slots everywhere as that is just retarded.

Make an AI for fair catches and not a slider. Fuck sliders.

If you are gonna un nerf the DPC, more formations and plays. Fuck it lets have a party.

Of course an OC wouldn't want custom slots for every position, because the positions that benefit from it are already covered, the main positions that truly need it are DE and SS. If you can't see where that would be beneficial (particularly for DCs that like to use a lot of 3-4 in the case of the DEs) then you simply cannot be helped.

I can see not wanting an OPC..... UNTIL Bort fixes blocking interactions better and stuff that simply hasn't been fixed since the beginning. True, it would be a nightmare to combat on the defensive side, but for those DCs that truly want a hardcore challenge, it is the way to go. It would take a lot to get it right, but not wanting it at all to me seems ridiculous.

A true STs AI would be perfect, not just for fair catches so we mostly agree there, as well as on the more formations/plays.

Originally posted by jimmiejoe
Of course an OC wouldn't want custom slots for every position, because the positions that benefit from it are already covered, the main positions that truly need it are DE and SS. If you can't see where that would be beneficial (particularly for DCs that like to use a lot of 3-4 in the case of the DEs) then you simply cannot be helped.

I can see not wanting an OPC..... UNTIL Bort fixes blocking interactions better and stuff that simply hasn't been fixed since the beginning. True, it would be a nightmare to combat on the defensive side, but for those DCs that truly want a hardcore challenge, it is the way to go. It would take a lot to get it right, but not wanting it at all to me seems ridiculous.

A true STs AI would be perfect, not just for fair catches so we mostly agree there, as well as on the more formations/plays.

Custom slots everywhere benefit both sides. But not because it makes it more fun. It just gives the ability to push greater builds into one skill set. That isn't strategy and it makes playing the game awful. It wouldn't matter to me if they wanted to do that for SS/FS. But for CB's and DE's I would have a problem with that. And I would definitely have a problem with WR's and Oline getting custom slots too. Offensively it didn't take long for OC's like me to completely manipulate GLB2's casual atmosphere with custom O slots just based on formations. It also didn't take long for Bort to see the writing on the wall of how quickly that ruins strategy behind games like this.

The OPC is an absolute nightmare. It has nothing to do with the blocking interactions (offensively). It just lends great credence to using flawed coverages. Not to mention this isn't a live game so scouting is futile. DC's would go to 1) Cover 2 and 2) use whatever blitz complicates the blocking interactions. That is what people don't particularly understand and that is why you will never see it in this game.

The arguments behind new formations is basically it equals more work and length of AI for DC's. Especially given the formations ready to be supplied.

- Trips Right switches the TE to the opposite side of the field which might be mitigated by use of BTE. Also possibly changes the right side of the field set up for WR #'s. (usually 5-4-2 but likely would use 3-2-1 in this case. Either way will require all new plays.

- 4 WR right and left. Also brings to light different WR #'s in use much like Trips right and left except there is a single WR opposite. So will require all new plays.

- Wishbone requires tagging 2 HB's. On top of already tagging the FB and TE.

- Split T requires the same as wishbone.

- Power I requires tagging 2 FB's and 2 TE's. On top of tagging the HB.

- Pistol probably the easiest of the bunch to implement as it would be very similar to shotgun 3 WR.

Now you could certainly slowly implement these formations every couple seasons and add plays along the way. Continue to keep us hooked and whatever. But it would certainly help to loosen up the bolts on the DPC to let DC's better combat the various flaws made by handicapping DC's ability to spread their defense. To which the next worry is making the barrier for entry worse for new DC's. To which I say at that point fuck it. If you are selling this game for what it is to hardcore players, keep the movement going.

I'd still like to see an OPC for lolscrims only.

Everyone says it would be the worst thing ever, but if it didn't impact on any meaningful games and was just there for the OC that wants to dream up new plays and then see them, I don't have a problem with that.

If in five seasons you figure it is OPed for league play, you keep it for lolscrims only. If it turns not not to be the nightmare you thought it would be, implement it.

So long as you limit to:

Existing formations
lolscrims
existing route types
a maximum number of custom plays per team

...then I wouldn't have a problem with it. In fact, it might be something that would get me interested in owning a team again, even if just for the lolscrims.

Seems time wasteful. This isn't a live game so it would be super irritating to scout. I would rather concentration spent on the things that do effect the daily game to game schedule.

Scout me out bro

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About 30 different ways I could make that just as worse without thinking about screens or running the ball.

Originally posted by bhall43

Now you could certainly slowly implement these formations every couple seasons and add plays along the way. Continue to keep us hooked and whatever. But it would certainly help to loosen up the bolts on the DPC to let DC's better combat the various flaws made by handicapping DC's ability to spread their defense. To which the next worry is making the barrier for entry worse for new DC's. To which I say at that point fuck it. If you are selling this game for what it is to hardcore players, keep the movement going.

I am all for this option

Originally posted by bhall43


Custom slots everywhere benefit both sides. But not because it makes it more fun. It just gives the ability to push greater builds into one skill set. That isn't strategy and it makes playing the game awful. It wouldn't matter to me if they wanted to do that for SS/FS. But for CB's and DE's I would have a problem with that. And I would definitely have a problem with WR's and Oline getting custom slots too.


See to me, the bolded part would actually be fun, provided current roster size was cut to make OCs or DCs choose one type of FB/SS/FS/QB, etc. In fact, I would be much more inclined to DC again if I could push the specialty builds exactly where I want them to truly have a defensive scheme identity. Would it take forever and a day to build a new AI with an un-nerfed DPC? Sure it would, but would be much more satisfying imo.

It is lame though. Tagging rushing sets with strength dlines/LB's/safeties/corners. Tagging passing sets by bringing in your INT guys and pass rush DE's.

Go ahead and lower the roster size. All you are doing is taking your backups and making them specialty builds.

Meanwhile I am coming at you with blocking WR's, TE's, FB's, an RQB, PHB and run blocking oline one play and the next a pass oline, PQB, scat backs, pass catchings WR's

Meh.

It would probably be more ideal defensively without a tagging option. Never would that be ideal offensively and really far from realistic.

Originally posted by bhall43
It is lame though. Tagging rushing sets with strength dlines/LB's/safeties/corners. Tagging passing sets by bringing in your INT guys and pass rush DE's.

Go ahead and lower the roster size. All you are doing is taking your backups and making them specialty builds.

Meanwhile I am coming at you with blocking WR's, TE's, FB's, an RQB, PHB and run blocking oline one play and the next a pass oline, PQB, scat backs, pass catchings WR's

Meh.

Well, I am sure I am not the norm, but the more the challenge, the more fun it is for me.... win or lose.

Turning backups into specialty builds is exactly what I am after tbh, however, with the smaller roster limit I would have to make sacrifices somewhere else to have those specialty builds. That is part of the risk factor and why some teams play well against certain other teams in real life when they tend to suck against teams they are not built to stop. The Big 10 is a classic example as they are traditionally a power run conference (until more recently with Denard and Miller and Wilson). Overall the conference isn't built to stop the more speedy SEC teams in bowl games, hence their head-to-head bowl records. Michigan is among the most successful again SEC teams and they still are around .500 versus them.

No you aren't, because the offense would have less dots also so you would have to choose.... you wouldn't be able to have ALL of those. That is precisely what I mean by the identity. You could come at me with some, but not all of those (or if you did, you wouldn't have any depth on your O-line)

Originally posted by bhall43
It would probably be more ideal defensively without a tagging option. Never would that be ideal offensively and really far from realistic.

Agreed