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Linebackers that Man Cover Wideouts and the Penalties that Befall Them..

What are they exactly?

And do they continue even if the play is a rushing play, or a screen after the pass?

Nothing if they're playing in their LB position. But if you have them plugged in at CB... you gonna PAY sucka!
Seriously though. They'll follow the same protocol as your CB's and safeties do... the way you set them. They have to pass a vision check to recognize any play different than what you set them on (if you told them to cover a WR, they'll cover until they "see" it's a run play, then react accordingly).

penalties ? .. what are they ?

consider that you never saw #56 Taylor trying to cover #80 Rice ... especially weak trying to push a LB out too wide ... he (she) is a LINE backer ... not a CORNER backer

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Nothing if they're playing in their LB position. But if you have them plugged in at CB... you gonna PAY sucka!
Seriously though. They'll follow the same protocol as your CB's and safeties do... the way you set them. They have to pass a vision check to recognize any play different than what you set them on (if you told them to cover a WR, they'll cover until they "see" it's a run play, then react accordingly).

not true, bort did say in the past there was a significant penalty for LB's covering WR's but he didnt specify what... best thing is only do it if you are setting it as a 2nd man or a 2nd option on the WR

ie, HB or WR1, but dont make the LB straight up vs WR as the only guy covering... and im pretty sure the penalty is only in the coverage part of his asignment

never put an offensive guy on defense

and I have ... ... done all the substitutions possible

What I wanted to achieve with this was setting up an LB further outside than he can manage with the set restrictions.

It was never about him covering the WR, it was about him shifting the cover a sweep or screen.

But its not helpful if the LB covering WR penalty is a general % and it extends through the whole play.

I scrimmed it anyway.

The good news is he is indeed posted out there.

The bad news is that he runs with the WR really far upfield, taking him out of the play. Even with a slow boat LB with speed under 90.

On Screens anyway.

Havent tried it with sweeps.

so what you are saying is hes doing exactly what you are asking him to do by covering the WR?

... and you've played glb for how long?

Originally posted by gbororats
so what you are saying is hes doing exactly what you are asking him to do by covering the WR?

Yes, darn him to heck

I just kinda figured that at speed 8X he would have maybe gone three yards before figuring out it was a screen or sweep and turned around.

Originally posted by o The Boss x
... and you've played glb for how long?

Season 1, but I have not tried manning a LB on a WR all the same, till now.

You may be able to set the LB to cover a non position player (ie FB in a SB formation or BTE with none on the field) then set his secondary to a zone.

There's a HUGE difference in covering WRs from CBs to Safeties, and even more from Safeties to LBs.

I don't know any numbers or specifics, but I have seen it in action and the LBs never have a chance. I've tried to use MLB to Cover WR5 in 5 wide, even tried to double WR5 with MLB and SS and still no chance.

Originally posted by yello1
What I wanted to achieve with this was setting up an LB further outside than he can manage with the set restrictions.

It was never about him covering the WR, it was about him shifting the cover a sweep or screen.

But its not helpful if the LB covering WR penalty is a general % and it extends through the whole play.

I scrimmed it anyway.

The good news is he is indeed posted out there.

The bad news is that he runs with the WR really far upfield, taking him out of the play. Even with a slow boat LB with speed under 90.

On Screens anyway.

Havent tried it with sweeps.

Wont work. If you had vision out the roof you might get a good read now and again and he would move into the play.

Originally posted by yello1
What I wanted to achieve with this was setting up an LB further outside than he can manage with the set restrictions.

It was never about him covering the WR, it was about him shifting the cover a sweep or screen.

But its not helpful if the LB covering WR penalty is a general % and it extends through the whole play.

I scrimmed it anyway.

The good news is he is indeed posted out there.

The bad news is that he runs with the WR really far upfield, taking him out of the play. Even with a slow boat LB with speed under 90.

On Screens anyway.

Havent tried it with sweeps.

why dont you just put the LB in a flat zone? set to cover zone immediately and he will run strait to his spot

Pretty sure LBers have a 5% penalty in coverage.... Bhall probably knows for sure