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and called it before the season started?

Originally posted by T2
and called it before the season started?







Ooh ooh ooh, I know!

That team and group of dots won it their first attempt and 2 of their 5 seasons.. Our next group I'm betting at least 3/5

I think Halifax (or whatever they called themselves back then) won their first season up.

Originally posted by snakes22
That team and group of dots won it their first attempt and 2 of their 5 seasons.. Our next group I'm betting at least 3/5
lolno. But that wasn't the point anyway. The WL is clearly down from what it used to be, but the Duckies do deserve a lot of credit for winning it all in their first try.

Originally posted by Plankton
I think Halifax (or whatever they called themselves back then) won their first season up.
pew pew

Hedgehogs?

Originally posted by jdbolick

lolno. But that wasn't the point anyway. The WL is clearly down from what it used to be, but the Duckies do deserve a lot of credit for winning it all in their first try.

How is it down when all the builds are better? That makes no sense. Just cause someone that isnt a big name wins WL doesnt mean it wasnt deserving and earned. WL is better now than ever and will only keep getting better.

Originally posted by coreyls18
How is it down when all the builds are better? That makes no sense. Just cause someone that isnt a big name wins WL doesnt mean it wasnt deserving and earned. WL is better now than ever and will only keep getting better.

That's a good point. I think it's down in one sense b/c several marquis teams and agents are gone or reclusive. But as far as talent goes, it's silly. So good and bad, I think. But I like seeing some new blood.

Originally posted by Boomy DTD
Originally posted by coreyls18

How is it down when all the builds are better? That makes no sense. Just cause someone that isnt a big name wins WL doesnt mean it wasnt deserving and earned. WL is better now than ever and will only keep getting better.

That's a good point. I think it's down in one sense b/c several marquis teams and agents are gone or reclusive. But as far as talent goes, it's silly. So good and bad, I think. But I like seeing some new blood.

It's just the standard thing to say when you are no longer winning it, or disinterested. WL was better when X, Y, Z was doing it.

Not true per say.

I think if my exact Skulls team had made WL way back in the day when WL started and had some of those first coordinators that had the game figured out before everyone else they would have crushed teams. Its always relative to the day. The builds are far better now, the coordinators are well aware that the game is random and the best ones are the ones that mitigate risk the best, while balancing just enough chance taking. (The card counters)

Originally posted by coreyls18
How is it down when all the builds are better? That makes no sense. Just cause someone that isnt a big name wins WL doesnt mean it wasnt deserving and earned. WL is better now than ever and will only keep getting better.
Maybe someone who has actually been up here a while has more credibility than you when it comes to judging the past versus the present. You're jabbering like those hyperactive teenagers who insist that music is better now than ever before because it's easier to get exposure and technology allows you to do more things. The same decline in activity and interest that has affected GLB as a whole has obviously done a number on the WL as well. Not nearly as many people are trying to get up here, and not nearly as many people up here are trying hard to win. Why do you think they condensed the Pro leagues? Why do you think even WL teams are having to accept flawed dots in recruiting? There isn't nearly as much dot-talent in the game now as there used to be.

Furthermore, sim-changes and things like diminishing returns on % AEQ have radically reduced the challenges you face. No longer do you have to double team Valhalla WRs because they'll always catch anything in single coverage. No longer do you have to worry about jdros' or evileyez's linebackers. No longer do you have to worry about getting too big an early lead on HHWC and risk Big Heart kill you. You don't have Bonn's suffocating zone defense. You don't have a Jedi Knight shredding your defense. You can actually hold blocks and break tackles against a tautology defense. And for that matter, you barely even have to worry about special teams returns anymore. This isn't just nostalgia. A lot of the things Bort did to change the game was to reduce the things that used to be so powerful. All that combined with decreased interest/effort means that it's nowhere near the challenge it used to be. I had to struggle to make the playoffs in the old days. I could do it in Alpha without changing my AIs the entire season. The dots today might have higher player value, but they aren't nearly as powerful as the old ones were. And P@nda is correct that coordination now is about being vanilla and minimizing risk as opposed to enforcing your will. Lastly, if you think that GLB doesn't have far less people trying to win now than it used to, then you're out of your mind. GLB in general isn't what it used to be, so of course the WL isn't either.

Originally posted by coreyls18
WL is better now than ever and will only keep getting better.

You can't possibly be serious with this. >_<