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Darkstrand
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EDIT: oops i Kinda messed up topic. This is a DE. I dont' care too much about flashy stats. I want him to be sexy enough for a good team to pick him up 1 day. He is a wrap up tackler I figure.

I've roughly sketched him out as

Attributes:
strength : 100.1 +58 158.1 strength
speed : 89
agility : 95.1
jumping : 35
stamina : 61
vision : 54.1
confidence : 26
blocking : 8
throwing : 8
catching : 8
carrying : 8
tackling : 76.1
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Top SA Tree:
swat 1
2 (wall)
4 (strong base) +6 = 10
7 diving tackle
0 big hit

Bottom SA Tree:
9 first step +1CE=10
2 change direction +1CE =3
3 shed block +6EQ+1CE=10

+22.5% break block, +12% make tackle (other 2 EQ were in strong base and shed block)

VA: 15 Bull Rusher, 15 Heavyweight, 15 Sure tackler, 15 JTS, 12 Pass Rusher

his training wasn't optimized because the GLB builder doesn't' work right anymore and I'm not too hip on training methods to begin with so I could have probably got his jumping and stamina a little higher, BUT OTHERWISE this is the plan

Value is about 1325 but I except it to go up a little when he is actually finished being made. My DE certainly isn't on par with curretn top DEs that seem to be in the mid 1400s but I dunno. I guess in the long run I'll train a little better and hope it isn't too big a deal for now.

here is his build right now: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4411829

MY BIG QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS

(1) Am I being boneheaded on confidence? I honestly am not sure how much that shit does tbh
(2) Should I be going WALL? I figure his strength is good enough to keep him in place
(3) Is my diving tackle emphasis a bad move? I feel like its a smart move since linemen get so many diving tackle opportunities
(4) Should I put some of his aeq into agility instead of strength to try to get technique man to work? How much woudl I have to put in it to get me over the hump on ROTs.
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aaron_c
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(1) I'm far from an expert, but I think confidence is probably fine...maybe a bit more would be okay, but I've read that around the 35-40 area is where it becomes basically useless. Of course, some will disagree with me both ways on that haha, but that's the rule of thumb I'm going to stick with. Do DE's really need confidence as much as, say, a CB or QB would anyway?

Sorry I couldn't be more help! Just thought I'd get the ball rolling on your replies and pitch that one tidbit in, good luck!
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by Darkstrand


MY BIG QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS

(1) Am I being boneheaded on confidence? I honestly am not sure how much that shit does tbh

Originally posted by


Me either. But I probably would like more than you have. Perhaps someone else has tried your number at DE with success and will post it.

Originally posted by Darkstrand
(2) Should I be going WALL? I figure his strength is good enough to keep him in place

Originally posted by


Strength is good. But anything you can add to make it better, you should (IMO).

Originally posted by Darkstrand
(3) Is my diving tackle emphasis a bad move? I feel like its a smart move since linemen get so many diving tackle opportunities

Originally posted by


I don't think it's a bad move but if you're going for that why is your jumping so low? I would think more jumping would do more for your diving tackle technique.

Originally posted by Darkstrand
(4) Should I put some of his aeq into agility instead of strength to try to get technique man to work? How much would I have to put in it to get me over the hump on ROTs.



For pass rushing DE's, I'm use to seeing agility around 100+... so I'm pondering that, if you're wanting your DE to be a "wrap up tackler" more than a pass rusher, I'm not sure why you're interested in getting over the hump on ROT's? Your strength should cover most ROT's as they'll more often be built to stop pass rushers who have more agility and less strength than your guy and getting to the ball carrier is your game here for this dot, so I think your numbers are fine as far as agility and strength go.






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Jampy2.0
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I thought LDEs were the pass rushers
 
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I don't like the shitty vision or confidence personally, but given what you are trying to achieve I think he might do better at:

Attributes:
strength : 100.1 +38 138.1 strength
speed : 89
agility : 95.1 +20 115.1 agility


That might not be enough to always "get you over the hump" on ROTs,...not sure where WL ROTs are putting their Agi these days.

Edited by tautology on Jul 5, 2013 14:31:27
 
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Also: I probably wouldn't bother with Diving Tackle SA for this build. Probably better off putting those points elsewhere.

 
Sellars
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That's def more of a pass rush build than a run stop setup. 76 TKL is nowhere near enough tackling if that's his main job. Like Taut said split EQ with AGL for techman, although I would stop at 110 AGL vs most ROTs. He has nice SPD and a pretty good STR+AGL for BB% score so he could do decent as a rusher.
 
TJ Spikes
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you also might want to try the build with a 3 AEQ goal, instead of using 2 pieces for SAs

 
Baustin
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Similar build http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2565340&playoffs=0
 
Darkstrand
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Originally posted by Baustin
Similar build http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2565340&playoffs=0


hmm that's interesting.

I had a lot of luck with a strength build back in the day
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1830072

but maybe the sim has changed to make those kind of ubilds less effective?
 
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I put all speed equipment on my most recent two: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=3825979 & http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=3846846 but it doesn't seem to be more effective than when I used strength equipment. The important thing is simply to use evasive pass rushing. If you use power pass rushing, you'll bounce against the RT.
 
Sellars
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Originally posted by Darkstrand
hmm that's interesting.

I had a lot of luck with a strength build back in the day
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1830072

but maybe the sim has changed to make those kind of ubilds less effective?


That particular build is killer at LDE in the current sim. Basically have 80-90 SPD, enough AGL for techman and as much STR as u can muster.
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by jdbolick
I put all speed equipment on my most recent two: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=3825979 & http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=3846846 but it doesn't seem to be more effective than when I used strength equipment. The important thing is simply to use evasive pass rushing. If you use power pass rushing, you'll bounce against the RT.


Amen. And wonderin if you also had Technique Man as a VA with that?
 


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