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What is the minimum a CB should invest in catching?

Separate but similar question, I expect there are builds out there that neglected catching all together, but if a dot is going to invest in catching what would the minimum that would be beneficial and how beneficial would you expect that investment to be?

Hmmm I completely meant to put this in the CB forum. I guess it could still be answered here. Just not a general question. Sorry.

As with all build questions, opinions will differ. Here are mine tho.

The short answer is, it depends upon your build goals. Here are my recommendations for the 3 types of CBs I have seen most commonly:

1) KL / Str CB - 20 Catch or whatever is the minimum. I would not invest in any catching for this type of CB.

2) Standard Cover CB - For cover CBs that are not pure Int builds and want to have decent tackling and strength, I have found that 60 Catching and set to semi-aggressive can still net 5-7 Ints per season without giving up much elsewhere. A team full of these guys would probably get a couple of Ints per game, which would be pretty impactful without giving up much

3) Pure Int CB - 75+ Catching. There is no denying that Catching has a significant impact on Ints. I have seen and read conversations from several builders that have gotten great Int numbers season after season, and they all had 75+ Catching. In my experience, there is a trade off for this, but if your DC can handle the occasional big play being given up, then a properly built CB with 75+ Catching and the right AE and tactics can get alot of Ints, even against good competition.

Thank you for your input; however, it is not what I want to hear. Someone tell me what I want to hear. LOL. Just kidding. It was exactly the information I was hoping to hear even if I wanted the details to be different. Thank you for your time.

On #2 I would support that you could even go lower, down to the first cap. This may be perceived as controversial, but vision plays a lot into INTs which helps when you don't have high catching. It's not going to be a direct substitute, but a coverage dot with 95+ vision/48-60 catching will perform quite well.

Obviously at that point you are building a guy focused in coverage/deflections, with the interceptions as a nice add-on. It makes for a better overall CB in terms of being Bort-proof.

The challenge with #3 is you HAVE to get the INTs versus quality competition for the build to be considered even mildly productive. You can very easily get burned when you are making sacrifices in speed/agility/vision/jumping for the greater catching.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
On #2 I would support that you could even go lower, down to the first cap.

Obviously at that point you are building a guy focused in coverage/deflections, with the interceptions as a nice add-on. It makes for a better overall CB in terms of being Bort-proof.

The challenge with #3 is you HAVE to get the INTs versus quality competition for the build to be considered even mildly productive. You can very easily get burned when you are making sacrifices in speed/agility/vision/jumping for the greater catching.

Ewwwww, is Romo actually saying something I want to hear? Hmmm... I'm going to have to go contemplate the cosmos.

I will add in what little I know as well. Having built a few CB's, I had the greatest success with one build design (a plan I am now sticking to, BTW) where the CB is TALL, and has plenty of Jumping (at LEAST 50). Then adding in catching. I seem to get more "INT's" off of deflections... or picking off passes from underneath (slightly trailing the receiver if running a go or post route).

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I will add in what little I know as well. Having built a few CB's, I had the greatest success with one build design (a plan I am now sticking to, BTW) where the CB is TALL, and has plenty of Jumping (at LEAST 50). Then adding in catching. I seem to get more "INT's" off of deflections... or picking off passes from underneath (slightly trailing the receiver if running a go or post route).

50 jumping CB?

Originally posted by aaasahi
50 jumping CB?


Please tell me you think that is too low. I will likely end at 80ish. Your thoughts on that number?

I think I actually forgot to thank Romo in my joking around with him. Thank you sir for your input.

Originally posted by toobad4u_00
Please tell me you think that is too low. I will likely end at 80ish. Your thoughts on that number?

I think I actually forgot to thank Romo in my joking around with him. Thank you sir for your input.

All my CB is build open.
You can check it and find your answer.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I will add in what little I know as well. Having built a few CB's, I had the greatest success with one build design (a plan I am now sticking to, BTW) where the CB is TALL, and has plenty of Jumping (at LEAST 50). Then adding in catching. I seem to get more "INT's" off of deflections... or picking off passes from underneath (slightly trailing the receiver if running a go or post route).

I would think most people make 6'3" CBs. 50 Jumping seems awfully low.

Originally posted by aaasahi
50 jumping CB?


That's why I said AT LEAST 50. aaasahi. I prefer MUCH more myself... but having less than 50 is kinda a waste of SP's IMO. I've seen some 50 jumping DB's... they do "ok"... but I think more jumping works better. (same for icy warrior as well.)
2bad4you's idea of 80-ish I would MUCH more prefer than 50. That help clarify, yawl?

In aaasahi's defense his CB has 64 jumping not 50. I personally take my jumping on my CBs in the mid 70-80 range.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2563254
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2563251

Sad thing is my CBs have 18 and 50 strength with not very good tackling either(63 and 69) But yet my CBs have better tackle to miss tackles than aaasahis and his CB has 85 strength and 80 tackling. Doesnt make much sense.

scratch that, it does make sense. He is on a jdb team. So he is playing on balanced or power tackling style w/power tackler VA. I use to toy with that VA and tackling tactic for DBs, but gave up on it. Trade off wasnt good enough. And in this case it isnt either.

Originally posted by coreyls18
In aaasahi's defense his CB has 64 jumping not 50. I personally take my jumping on my CBs in the mid 70-80 range.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2563254
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2563251

Sad thing is my CBs have 18 and 50 strength with not very good tackling either(63 and 69) But yet my CBs have better tackle to miss tackles than aaasahis and his CB has 85 strength and 80 tackling. Doesnt make much sense.

scratch that, it does make sense. He is on a jdb team. So he is playing on balanced or power tackling style w/power tackler VA. I use to toy with that VA and tackling tactic for DBs, but gave up on it. Trade off wasnt good enough. And in this case it isnt either.

his younger corners all are around 79 and are day 186 dots so take that as you might.

Originally posted by toobad4u_00
his younger corners all are around 79 and are day 186 dots so take that as you might.

oh well good, looks like he learned you dont need that much strength/tackling as a CB