Is it still for pass rush only? Is it good? Will it help my toon get lots of revcakes?
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Darkstrand
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also what about heavyweight? is that still good. I remember someone saying it got nerfed about 6 seasons back
Novus
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Let's check the descriptions.
First of all, Strong Base is an SA, while Heavyweight is a VA...
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Strong Base (SA)
This player has a powerful lower body, and knows how to use it well. The Strong Base skill gives him a bonus to pushing a blocker out of the way.
This skill works best when used by players with high strength.
Additional Levels:
Increases the chance of the skill working, and increases the bonus to pushing the blocker away.
I don't see anything in the description that says it only works on pass plays.
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Heavyweight (VA)
This player is hard to block. Each level of Heavyweight gives a +1.5% bonus to knocking down his blocker when breaking a block.
I do seem to recall the bonus used to be higher but got cut. But 15 points in Heavyweight will give you a +22.5% bonus to knocking down your defender when breaking a block. Just gotta compare that to the bonus you could get from other VAs, and then pick the most valuable one.
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A lot of times, you can answer your own question by just doing the math and comparing VAs or SAs to each other. Only you know exactly what you want your dot to do, so there's only so much help you can get from others on a question like this.
First of all, Strong Base is an SA, while Heavyweight is a VA...
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Strong Base (SA)
This player has a powerful lower body, and knows how to use it well. The Strong Base skill gives him a bonus to pushing a blocker out of the way.
This skill works best when used by players with high strength.
Additional Levels:
Increases the chance of the skill working, and increases the bonus to pushing the blocker away.
I don't see anything in the description that says it only works on pass plays.
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Heavyweight (VA)
This player is hard to block. Each level of Heavyweight gives a +1.5% bonus to knocking down his blocker when breaking a block.
I do seem to recall the bonus used to be higher but got cut. But 15 points in Heavyweight will give you a +22.5% bonus to knocking down your defender when breaking a block. Just gotta compare that to the bonus you could get from other VAs, and then pick the most valuable one.
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A lot of times, you can answer your own question by just doing the math and comparing VAs or SAs to each other. Only you know exactly what you want your dot to do, so there's only so much help you can get from others on a question like this.
aaasahi
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Novus, I don't know if you ever follow Q&A thread, but if you have, you will remember the Strong Base Gate.
Yes, Bort once told us in Q&A that Strong Base only work on pass rushing. (Don't ask me for link, go to Q&A thread and find it by yourself, it's before 2012 6/8)
And I was surprised about that, because Strong Base is favor SA for Run Stuffer DE!
I asked Bort to check it again and Bort confirmed that, but he promised it will be fixed.
And then we got this change log:
Jun 8, 2012
- Strong Base now also works on run blocking
So you can understand why OP ask this question.......
Yes, Bort once told us in Q&A that Strong Base only work on pass rushing. (Don't ask me for link, go to Q&A thread and find it by yourself, it's before 2012 6/8)
And I was surprised about that, because Strong Base is favor SA for Run Stuffer DE!
I asked Bort to check it again and Bort confirmed that, but he promised it will be fixed.
And then we got this change log:
Jun 8, 2012
- Strong Base now also works on run blocking
So you can understand why OP ask this question.......

Darkstrand
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Originally posted by aaasahi
Novus, I don't know if you ever follow Q&A thread, but if you have, you will remember the Strong Base Gate.
Yes, Bort once told us in Q&A that Strong Base only work on pass rushing. (Don't ask me for link, go to Q&A thread and find it by yourself, it's before 2012 6/8)
And I was surprised about that, because Strong Base is favor SA for Run Stuffer DE!
I asked Bort to check it again and Bort confirmed that, but he promised it will be fixed.
And then we got this change log:
Jun 8, 2012
- Strong Base now also works on run blocking
So you can understand why OP ask this question.......XD
ahh yes thank you... looks like Strong base might be a pretty solid SA now.
I think you are right about that being the heavyweight nerf btw. Maybe it use to be 3% for each level
Novus, I don't know if you ever follow Q&A thread, but if you have, you will remember the Strong Base Gate.
Yes, Bort once told us in Q&A that Strong Base only work on pass rushing. (Don't ask me for link, go to Q&A thread and find it by yourself, it's before 2012 6/8)
And I was surprised about that, because Strong Base is favor SA for Run Stuffer DE!
I asked Bort to check it again and Bort confirmed that, but he promised it will be fixed.
And then we got this change log:
Jun 8, 2012
- Strong Base now also works on run blocking
So you can understand why OP ask this question.......XD
ahh yes thank you... looks like Strong base might be a pretty solid SA now.
I think you are right about that being the heavyweight nerf btw. Maybe it use to be 3% for each level
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