Warrior General Games

i would preferably like to hear from agents
who have experience with Quick Cut at high levels-
to hear any feedback on how it affects player movement.

my QB will finish w/ about 105 agi and feature Juke AEQ and try to utilize good blocking;
so like i said even more so than the statistical production i'm interested in the effect it has
on movement. also- if it any way helps in juking or spin in your opinion would be nice to know.

Even with 105 agility you'll still have some speed loss when changing directions. It's worth it as long as the opportunity cost isn't too high. That's the real concern here.

It's not about the effectiveness of the Quick Cut SA. It's about what you'd be giving up to raise it past 5.

i was considering a 4th AEQ; bit cheaper cost so i can train longer.
figured it be worth it to help a juke based rQB who will only have
about 145 speed 77 carry, but 105 agi and spin/juke AEQs
{cuz i just had to go w/ 90 throw 75 vis end...)


already at lev 40 she is getting very good yardage running the ball, just with agility,
as ive only begun to raise the speed. so i figure i can close the speed gap AMAP
and use qucik cut to ensure she always has the best change of direction.
that with 11 juke and spin hopefully she can be a very formidable rusher,
with at least enough basic pass ability to keep defenses honest.

How much strength? Without significant strength that spin is going to be relatively worthless (especially so w/ 77 carrying)

77

No offense but if it were me, id retire and start over. Then again im not for the combo builds. If youre gonna be a rushing QB then be a rushing QB. Wasted a ton of training and SP in throwing and vision. With strength and carrying that low to go with speed barely over 140. I just dont see this dot doing much past reg pro. But then again could work out having a combo Qb like that, with the right OC maybe he could work something successful out.

Originally posted by jampysos
Originally posted by coreyls18

If youre gonna be a rushing QB then be a rushing QB..



hmmmm....
didn't seem to have any trouble running circles round you guys yesterday lol:
http://www.wiki.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2323782&pbp_id=5709440


Originally posted by coreyls18
No offense but if it were me, id retire and start over. Then again im not for the combo builds. If youre gonna be a rushing QB then be a rushing QB. Wasted a ton of training and SP in throwing and vision. With strength and carrying that low to go with speed barely over 140. I just dont see this dot doing much past reg pro. But then again could work out having a combo Qb like that, with the right OC maybe he could work something successful out.

no offense but if i was trying to do the same old thing i wouldnt be asking different questions.
and if i wanted responses on whether a rQB will work i wouldnt have waited until half built to ask.
my last rQB dominated regPro with less speed and agility and no carry to speak of,
so im sure this will be a step up at least to top natPro level. wheteher or not to WL,
well that only time will tell.

im seeking the elusive impossible kapernick build, and when someone finds it, hopefully it will be me.
so please don't condescend as i'm smart enough to already know that most of you drones don't agree with the strategy-
and maybe just smart enough to discover what you couldn't to boot...

160 speed QBs that cant throw and outrun their blockers
=
nothing but TFLs against a good DC


btw using this guy kinda as a guide:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2158702

so in comparison, my QB will have
8 less speed
5 less carry
and
10 more agility
8 more strength
50 more throwing
10 more quick cut

so hopefully she will be about as good a runner and a much better passer?
so i hope the dude im building on doesn't suck... he tore up WL for many a season...


anyhow this is supposed to be about the effectiveness of high amount of QC SA with 100+agility
NOT the relative worth of a rQB, so lets all please try to stay on topic!

why didn't you go for a closer balance between agility and carrying? there just isn't that side-to-side elusive element to this game, even on super elusive, that makes 100+ agility worth it. 90 agility 90 carrying would have been fantastic.

Well, agility is a major for a scrambler archetype QB while carrying is not. That right there makes all the difference.

A rQB doesn't necessarily need blistering SPD. Less SPD can keep him behind the blockers. Just sayin'

Originally posted by coreyls18
No offense but if it were me, id retire and start over. Then again im not for the combo builds. If youre gonna be a rushing QB then be a rushing QB. Wasted a ton of training and SP in throwing and vision. With strength and carrying that low to go with speed barely over 140. I just dont see this dot doing much past reg pro. But then again could work out having a combo Qb like that, with the right OC maybe he could work something successful out.

I'd say 135+ speed is good for RQB........

too bad that rushers don't had the artificial intelligence to follow blocking till a hole opens up and then change gears into full speed.

Originally posted by Pen15
why didn't you go for a closer balance between agility and carrying? there just isn't that side-to-side elusive element to this game, even on super elusive, that makes 100+ agility worth it. 90 agility 90 carrying would have been fantastic.

After many years of tinkering with them I've found that you have to stop applying SPs and training Agility at ~74 on a rQB to have it end at 100(with immediate 3-star enhanced training). So to get it to 90 you would have to stop working your first attribute in the mid 60's and that just doesn't feel right imo.

Here is my newest build. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4435779 - he will end at 100 agi and I will have softcapped speed by lvl 14. I know from an EL standpoint vision would be a better 2nd attribute but I got some plans for this one.