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OneGiantLeap
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Yes, yes, this is a bitch thread. I have never made one of these but I feel this is warranted.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2527935
-Currently #1 in ST MVP ranking.
-32 tackles, 3 FF, 1 fumble recovery, 0 TD's

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2301535
-Currently #2 in ST MVP ranking.
-31 tackles, 6 FF, 0 fumble recoveries, 0 TD's

Can someone please explain this to me? Is that 1 extra tackle or 1 extra fumble recovery *really* enough to keep that player at #1?

If this is legitimate then that's fine but I just want to understand why.
 
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Slight advantage yes, but still time to get to number 1. Seasons not over yet. Use the clear IMO.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Well, to be clear it's not a bug as the MVP formulas are working as they are coded. That's been well stated in the past from threads of this nature.

Secondly, the MVP rankings take into account statistics from a team perspective. If #1 accounts for more of his team's ST's statistics or contributes more towards his team's success then he is going to be higher up in the rankings.
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Apr 25, 2013 15:55:00
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Well, to be clear it's not a bug as the MVP formulas are working as they are coded. That's been well stated in the past from threads of this nature.

Secondly, the MVP rankings take into account statistics from a team perspective. If #1 accounts for more of his team's ST's statistics or contributes more towards his team's success then he is going to be higher up in the rankings.


 
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So if your on a team with other good dots your screwed. Your better to be on a sucky team to win that award.
 
Dub J
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Don't pay any attention to MVP. No one else does.

 
OneGiantLeap
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Well, to be clear it's not a bug as the MVP formulas are working as they are coded. That's been well stated in the past from threads of this nature.

Secondly, the MVP rankings take into account statistics from a team perspective. If #1 accounts for more of his team's ST's statistics or contributes more towards his team's success then he is going to be higher up in the rankings.


I understand this as it equates to offense, but it makes no sense for special teams.

Asau has worked diligently to collect some of the best STOP players in the game. Why am I penalized simply because I have great players around me. They have in no way contributed to my dots success, as forced fumbles on special teams are an individual effort.

In addition, my player isn't slightly better than the #1 guy, he's CLEARLY better.

Originally posted by Dub J
Don't pay any attention to MVP. No one else does.


I don't care about the shiny GIF trophy. I care about the MVP equipment. Being in 1st gives me a better chance to get it.

Originally posted by whodey08
So if your on a team with other good dots your screwed. Your better to be on a sucky team to win that award.


Exactly my point.
Edited by OneGiantLeap on Apr 25, 2013 18:12:26
 
Dub J
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There have been a number of suggestions to improve the situation (completely getting rid of MVP being my favorite). GLB has pretty much ignored all of them.

 
coachingubigr
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My kicker is the #1 kicker in WL right now.


Lolglb
 
coachingubigr
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Seriously. I have yet to make a good dot in 33 seasons.
 
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Originally posted by coachingubigr
Seriously. I have yet to make a good dot in 33 seasons.


Seriously.....we believe you.
 
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But I have the #1 Kicker in WL
 
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Move to Suggestions?

Move to Game Recaps?
 
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Originally posted by OneGiantLeap
They have in no way contributed to my dots success, as forced fumbles on special teams are an individual effort.


Those other dots don't have Monster Hit, Big Hit or Aura?
 
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Originally posted by T2
Those other dots don't have Monster Hit, Big Hit or Aura?


I really didn't want to be this obnoxious but I suppose here it goes.

Guy in 1st place - http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2527935

FF#1 (Team lost the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2527935&game_id=2331859
The returner is tackled 1 time prior to the FF. The tackle was a monster hit by a teammate. "Assisted" forced fumble.

FF#2 (Team lost the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2527935&game_id=2331667
The returner is tackled 6 times prior to the FF, including 2 monster hits by him, and 2 by teammates. "Assisted" forced fumble.

FF #3 (Team lost the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2527935&game_id=2331657
He is the first player of the game to tackle him. "Independent" forced fumble.

Guy in 2nd place - http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2527935

FF#1 (Team won the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2301535&game_id=2331611
Returner was tackled 8 times prior to the FF, including 3 tackles by him with 2 monster hits, and 5 tackles by teammates with 1 monster hit. "Assisted" forced fumble.

FF#2 (Team won the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2301535&game_id=2331612
Returner was tackled 1 time prior to the FF, standard tackle. "Independent" forced fumble.

FF#3 (Team won the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2301535&game_id=2331613
The returner was tackled 13 times prior to the FF, 3 of which were tackles by him with 2 monster hits, and 10 tackles by teammates with 5 monster/big hits. "Assisted" forced fumble.

FF#4 (Team won the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2301535&game_id=2331615
Returner was tackled 3 times before the FF, with 1 big hit. "Assisted" forced fumble.

FF#5/6 (Team won the game)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=2301535&game_id=2331620
Returner was tackled 4 times prior to the 1st FF, with 1 big hit by him and 1 monster hit by a teammate. "Assisted" forced fumble.
Returner was tackled 3 more times prior to the 2nd FF, with 2 tackles by him, one of which was a monster hit. Although this is technically "assisted" due to the play earlier in the game, the only real morale reduction came through him. I consider this an "Independent" forced fumble.

As you can see, most of the forced fumbles for both players (2/3 for him, 4/6 for me) were assisted. The difference is here that my guy has double. Also, his team won every single game that a turnover was forced during.
Edited by OneGiantLeap on Apr 26, 2013 08:14:38
Edited by OneGiantLeap on Apr 26, 2013 08:14:22
Edited by OneGiantLeap on Apr 26, 2013 08:13:59
Edited by OneGiantLeap on Apr 26, 2013 08:13:17
 
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