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foshizzel17
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and get the same number of TP we would get if we built on day 41 the previous season.


that is all.
 
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i would build 10 right now.
 
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AirMcMVP
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This isn't as much of an instant player issue, but I guess you could look at it that way.

What could go wrong?

- No breakthroughs are allowed until a dot is 3 days old. Allowing TP to be retroactively accrued during the season would re-open the possibility of re-rolling.

- TP cap of 30 in in effect as of Day 1. Allowing TP to be retroactively accrued during the season would potentially cause issues with the cap.

I came up with those two off the top of my head. I'm sure there would be more.
 
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This is currently the biggest problem GLB has, IMO. I can say where there are issues but I am sure they can be worked out.

Just to answer the 2 above.

1. you start with 8 TP and get 2 per day so for the first 14 TP, there are no breakthroughs. Should be pretty easy to code this.

2. You would have to use all your TP on the day you created your player or else it would simply change it to 30 at nightly rollover.

I would think there are other issues but surely they can be worked out.
 
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Originally posted by daryls61
This is currently the biggest problem GLB has, IMO. I can say where there are issues but I am sure they can be worked out.

Just to answer the 2 above.

1. you start with 8 TP and get 2 per day so for the first 14 TP, there are no breakthroughs. Should be pretty easy to code this.

2. You would have to use all your TP on the day you created your player or else it would simply change it to 30 at nightly rollover.

I would think there are other issues but surely they can be worked out.


A dot built on Day 40 remains 0 days old until Day 1 of the next season. That would be 8 + (19*2) and, you're right, that isn't hard to code for. What you don't account for, though, is the willingness for some to go above and beyond to exploit the system. I can't put my finger on what's being missed, but something is glaringly missing...
 
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It was staring me right in the face...

XP, leveling, ALGs, and Skill Points.

If you only grant retroactive TP then you've just created a massive system of SSB. If you do include XP (including game XP) then how do you implement this? You would have to basically build the VPB into the game so an agent could step through the season and earn TP and XP correctly. If I could build a team of dots on Day 39 and skip the rookie season with no repercussions, why would I ever play a rookie season? While cutting 56 days off a build is nice, I doubt its something Bort/Catch will think is a good idea.
 
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ok. nevermind..........


i was drunk and wanted to build players. but i cant until day 40. its cool.
 
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This game making it to 2014 - NGTH!
 
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Originally posted by foshizzel17
ok. nevermind..........


i was drunk and wanted to build players. but i cant until day 40. its cool.


 
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Originally posted by AirMcMVP
It was staring me right in the face...

XP, leveling, ALGs, and Skill Points.

If you only grant retroactive TP then you've just created a massive system of SSB. If you do include XP (including game XP) then how do you implement this? You would have to basically build the VPB into the game so an agent could step through the season and earn TP and XP correctly. If I could build a team of dots on Day 39 and skip the rookie season with no repercussions, why would I ever play a rookie season? While cutting 56 days off a build is nice, I doubt its something Bort/Catch will think is a good idea.


So you think a lot of agents would wait until day 39 to make players instead of the window that currently exists? Maybe. If that were the case, i can see why it is a bad idea.

I don't really have a good idea on how to stop that. Maybe limit it to only 1 to 2 dots that an agent can be made that way?

Regardless, it does seem to be an issue that may not be able to be rectified adequately.
 
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Originally posted by daryls61
So you think a lot of agents would wait until day 39 to make players instead of the window that currently exists? Maybe. If that were the case, i can see why it is a bad idea.


I'd never build another dot who played a season of rookie ball. I'd build my dots on day 39 with exact build plans for season 1 and all the way to the start of season 2 since breakthroughs would have to be turned off to prevent re-rolling for max breakthroughs. I'd also shave 55 days off the path to plateau.

Perhaps if this option were only available for free dots I could get behind it, but like you said...

Originally posted by daryls61
it does seem to be an issue that may not be able to be rectified adequately.


 
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Originally posted by AirMcMVP
This isn't as much of an instant player issue, but I guess you could look at it that way.

What could go wrong?

- No breakthroughs are allowed until a dot is 3 days old. Allowing TP to be retroactively accrued during the season would re-open the possibility of re-rolling.

- TP cap of 30 in in effect as of Day 1. Allowing TP to be retroactively accrued during the season would potentially cause issues with the cap.

I came up with those two off the top of my head. I'm sure there would be more.


These two things should not be difficult to code, it's only if GLB want to do.
And I will add that only TP of off season can be retroactive, TP of regular season can't be retroactive.
 
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Originally posted by aaasahi
These two things should not be difficult to code, it's only if GLB want to do.
And I will add that only TP of off season can be retroactive, TP of regular season can't be retroactive.


If you make that caveat I could go along with it. I realize this was a drunk post by the OP, but I got the impression he wanted all the TP he would've earned up to the time a dot is created. In a perfect world that would be great. Someone here would abuse it.
 
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Originally posted by AirMcMVP
If you make that caveat I could go along with it. I realize this was a drunk post by the OP, but I got the impression he wanted all the TP he would've earned up to the time a dot is created. In a perfect world that would be great. Someone here would abuse it.


If Tp of regular season can be retroactive, then I won't make dot at off season anymore.
At regular season, we earn TP with age increased, now if there a way that I can keep at D0 and have those TP, guess what will happen?
 
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