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I keep building players who are good until they become pro, but they constantly lag behind in effective level. I see players all the time, who have much higher effective level than actual level, and I am not grasping why this happens, or how you get the most out of EL.

Can anyone give me some insight as to how to increase effective levels best?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4346345

Here's an example of a player I have. He's a good HB, his stats are awesome, but he is currently at EL of 37, while most of the league is 42+, so he is quickly becoming irrelevant.

What mistakes did I make in his build, or what could I have done differently to build his effective level better?

Originally posted by bshows
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4346345

Here's an example of a player I have. He's a good HB, his stats are awesome, but he is currently at EL of 37, while most of the league is 42+, so he is quickly becoming irrelevant.

What mistakes did I make in his build, or what could I have done differently to build his effective level better?

1) His build is closed so we can't see it
2) EL is how many skill points your dot has invested. The only way to raise EL is thru training. If my primary attributes cost 8 skill points to add +1 to it and I train it to where it rolls over than I just added 8 skill points to his EL. Multi training is the best way to increase EL.

Originally posted by bshows
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4346345

Here's an example of a player I have. He's a good HB, his stats are awesome, but he is currently at EL of 37, while most of the league is 42+, so he is quickly becoming irrelevant.

What mistakes did I make in his build, or what could I have done differently to build his effective level better?

His build is closed. Opening it will help us see where you went wrong. If I was on my computer I'd post a long winded explanation about ALGs(Auto-level-gains) and getting your prinary skills to at least 81 before putting SPs into anything else...no SAs before lvl 68-72....but someone else will.

^ you are describing SP Value Whodey, not effective level

Originally posted by Bane
^ you are describing SP Value Whodey, not effective level

EL is based strictly on Sp value

If someone mentions bolick three times he will appear like Beetle Juice and clear all of this up

Originally posted by coachingubigr
If someone mentions bolick three times he will appear like Beetle Juice and clear all of this up

I cleared it up with my answer. He asked how to increase EL and I answered by stating you do that thru training.

Originally posted by coachingubigr
If someone mentions bolick three times he will appear like Beetle Juice and clear all of this up

It'll have to be someone other than me. He's pissed at me right now.

Originally posted by whodey08
I cleared it up with my answer. He asked how to increase EL and I answered by stating you do that thru training.


Two ways to do it, actually... through training, and through taking clever advantage of your Automatic Level Gains, also known as ALGs. It's two-fold. Ideally, you'll be doing both at the same time.

Originally posted by Novus
Two ways to do it, actually... through training, and through taking clever advantage of your Automatic Level Gains, also known as ALGs. It's two-fold. Ideally, you'll be doing both at the same time.

You are wrong! How many times have I told you that you are an idiot and have no business answering questions.......ahhhh crap.....forgot to log in my jdbolick account.....i will be back to finish off being an asshole to you.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
a) As attributes rise, it costs more skill points to raise them 1.
- These are what people call "softcaps" or "caps". If someone says "take it to the next cap", they mean to spend your skill points until it costs an additional 1 SP then it did before to raise the attribute 1.

b) Maximize your training
- At lower values, training percentages are higher. As the attribute raises, it becomes less and less efficient to train that attribute UNTIL you cross the cap (with the skill now costing 2 (or whatever) skill points to raise it one, your training is now effectively worth DOUBLE (or more)).
- In general, efficient builders will spend their skill points when training has become less worthwhile.

c) Maximize your ALGs (automatic level gains)
- Each level up, your player gets points towards his majors (yellow stars) and minors (blue stars).
- By raising your most important attribute first to a high cap (think raw (no EQ) ~81 or ~83 value) and then utilizing multi-training to keep training it after you are done placing SPs in it, you can get that attribute to over 100 natural. When you add in +55 or +58 from equipment, that attribute is now creeping towards 160 in value.

d) Focus on raising your most important 3 or 4 attributes as high as you can.
- It's no secret, in GLB there are attributes that are simply necessities. Figure out what 3 or 4 attributes are goign to be crucial for your player and maximize their value. If you are building an offensive linemen, you want to raise strength, blocking, and agility all to 90+ in raw (no EQ) value.
- You can screw up a build elsewhere, but as long as you have your most important 3 or 4 attributes raised to high values and didn't royally do something stupid, you'll be ok and be productive.


b and c are really the understanding behind what leads to a solid effective level.

As others have mentioned, effective level is a measure of total SP value. If you have an effective level of 37, it means that your build's total SP value is equivalent to that of an average level 37 at your position.

Originally posted by whodey08
You are wrong! How many times have I told you that you are an idiot and have no business answering questions.......ahhhh crap.....forgot to log in my jdbolick account.....i will be back to finish off being an asshole to you.

It's okay, we're all jdbolick multis anyway.

Originally posted by Novus
It's okay, we're all jdbolick multis anyway.

You did it now.....between you and me we just mentioned his name 3 times

Originally posted by whodey08
You did it now.....between you and me we just mentioned his name 3 times

Yeah, but my mentions don't count. We covered that already. Try to keep up.