Warrior General Games

Is there a page that lists the starting skill points for each position during player creation? According to the F.A.Q. this varies by position.

Thanks!

Where in the FAQ are you reading?

Do you mean the variations in the 'base' build? You should start with 23 points to assign to your 'base' build. From there every dot starts with 15 SPs.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Where in the FAQ are you reading?

Do you mean the variations in the 'base' build? You should start with 23 points to assign to your 'base' build. From there every dot starts with 15 SPs.

Rome... he might mean how the BASE skill points are assigned per position. (Like Strength is 10, Agility is 10, speed is 10... ect.)
If so, he should be told that those numbers change when you adjust the height and weight of a player (up to +2 to -2 in 2 skills).

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago

If so, he should be told that those numbers change when you adjust the height and weight of a player (up to +2 to -2 in 2 skills).

Good point....perhaps you should tell him. Wait....what?

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Where in the FAQ are you reading?

Do you mean the variations in the 'base' build? You should start with 23 points to assign to your 'base' build. From there every dot starts with 15 SPs.

Pretty sure there's a couple of positions that start with a different number of "base" SPs to assign.

Yeah, I didn't know the term... 'base build' points were what I was talking about. QB gets 21 points, WR, and OL get 23. Don't know about the rest.

Don't all start with 23? And why is that even relevant?

Mikewill, what exactly do you expect to gain from this knowledge ?

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Don't all start with 23? And why is that even relevant?o_O

Mikewill, what exactly do you expect to gain from this knowledge ?

Play around with different positions in the VPB, and you'll see that different positions start with different amounts of "base" SPs. Kicker and Punter in particular are two I can think of off the top of my head, but there are others that I just can't remember.

Or heck, if you don't trust the VPB, just create a few new Level 1 players at different positions to see for yourself, and then retire them for full refunds when you're done.

And it's relevant because it will affect your early build plan. A couple of extra or missing SPs to start with can make a HUGE difference in the timing of hitting caps, which in turn affects other things. So, it's absolutely relevant and quite important, actually.

Give me an example of a situation that affects the capping.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Give me an example of a situation that affects the capping.



He's trying to get accurate information on building dots. Why are you acting like you're against that?

To the OP, there's no chart that lists out the info you're looking for, but just use the Virtual Player Builder script in GreaseMonkey and it'll give you the info you need.

GLB Player Builder v4_2: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/120326
GLB Player Value Calculator 1_2: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/114383
GLB Skill Page Enhancements: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/115138

Install all 3 together for best results.

If you don't know how to use GreaseMonkey, see this thread:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=37761&page=1#234521

Figured this would help you more than Hagalaz and I measuring our e-peens.

I don't know if that helps. I found that somewhere I don't remember where... I havent read it all so I might not agree with some.


OFFENSE

QB Deep Passer

Quick Read Bonus SA
Max Height and Weight to get bonuses on vision and strength
Max pts in throwing
Leftover points in vision

EQ in Throwing


QB Pocket Passer

Quick Read Bonus SA
Max Height and Weight to get bonuses on vision and strength
Max pts in throwing
Leftover points in vision

EQ into Throwing

QB Scrambler

Spin Bonus SA
Maximum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed

HB Elusive

Open Field Fake Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


HB Scat Back

Scat Back Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed

HB Combo

Surge, Hurdle SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Strength

EQ into Speed

HB Power

Surge Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Strength

EQ into Speed

FB Rusher

Lower the Shoulder or Surge Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Strength

EQ into Speed


FB Blocker

Get Low Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Strength


FB Combo

First Step or Foundation Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Strength

EQ into Speed


FB Scat Back

Scat Back Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed

TE Blocker

Pummel Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Strength

TE Power Receiver

First Step Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Strength

EQ into Speed

TE Receiver

Any of the catching Bonus SAs There are 4 or 5 to choose from.
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed

TE Dual Threat

First Step, Catch fake Bonus SAs
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


WR Speedster

Catch In Stride Bonus SAs
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


WR Possession

Catch Fake, Catch in stride Bonus SA
Maximum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Catching

EQ into Speed

WR Power

Get Low Bonus SA (Can you say "blocker?")
Maximum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Catching

EQ into Speed

OL Run Blocker

First Step or Quick Cut or Spot Blitz Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Strength

OL Pass Blocker

First Step or Quick Cut Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility



DEFENSE

DT Run Stuffer

First Step, Gang Tackle Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Strength


DT Pass Rusher

First Step, wrap up tackle or relentless pursuit Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Agility
Leftover points in Speed

EQ into Agility

DT Combo

First Step Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Strength


DE Run Stuffer

Aura of intimidation, Relentless Pursuit Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Strength


DE Pass Rusher

Relentless Pursuit, Blitz Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


DE Combo

Relentless Pursuit Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Maximum Weight
Max pts in Strength
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Strength


LB Coverage

Shutdown Coverage or Superior Vision Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


LB Blitzer

Closing Speed, Blitz or Superior Vision Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed

LB Combo

Closing Speed or Superior Vision Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


LB Hard Hitter

Closing Speed, Head Hunter or Superior Vision Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Strength

EQ into Speed


CB/SS/FS Man Specialist

Jackhammer, Snarl Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


CB/SS/FS Zone Specialist

Jackhammer Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed

CB/SS/FS Hard Hitter

Jackhammer or Head Hunter Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


CB/SS/FS Combo

Shutdown Coverage Jackhammer or Head Hunter Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ into Speed


SPECIAL TEAMS


K Technician

Diving Tackle, Wrap up tackle Bonus SA
Maximum Height and Weight
Max pts in Kicking
Leftover points in Confidence

EQ in Kicking

K Boomer

Diving Tackle, Wrap up Bonus SA
Maximum Height and Weight
Max pts in Kicking
Leftover points in Confidence

EQ in Kicking

P Technician

Diving Tackle, Wrap up tackle Bonus SA
Maximum Height and Weight
Max pts in Kicking
Leftover points in Confidence

EQ in Punting

K Boomer

Diving Tackle Bonus SA
Maximum Height and Weight
Max pts in Kicking
Leftover points in Confidence

EQ in Punting

Returner - CB preferred

Spin Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Minimum Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ in Speed


STOP - G preferred

Quick Cut, Strong Base, Pummel or Shed Block Bonus SA
Minimum Height and Weight
Max pts in Speed
Leftover points in Agility

EQ in Speed

Originally posted by Kboum
I don't know if that helps. I found that somewhere I don't remember where... I havent read it all so I might not agree with some.



This long post has nothing to do with OP's question, thank you.

Originally posted by Kboum
I don't know if that helps. I found that somewhere I don't remember where... I havent read it all so I might not agree with some.

One thing I'd DEFINITELY disagree on... I used to be in the camp of going with minimum or maximum height and/or weight, but I've since learned that it often helps your early capping if you go one notch back from the minimum or maximum.

Again, though, nothing beats just running your build plan through the Virtual Player Builder and seeing what happens. No build guide from anyone is ever gonna be perfect. Someone's build guide can certainly help you make your own, but unless you're trying to make an exact carbon-copy of someone else's dot, someone else's guide is never going to be ideal for what you're trying to build yourself. You're gonna have to make changes somewhere in their plan. And to do that, you're just gonna need to play with the VPB.

Originally posted by Novus


He's trying to get accurate information on building dots. Why are you acting like you're against that?

Ok, I give up. How can I request more information without people withholding it and/or insulting me and/or misinterpreting me? I'm trying my effing best here to be as neutral as possible and just inquire. What else do I need to do ?

I am asking for proof that it matters, because according to my calculations, it does not. So if in your calculations, it matters, I'd like to see why our points of view are different and attempt to learn something from it. Even if all I have to learn is that I'm right. I (and everyone else) can't be sure unless I express myself, because if I don't express myself, my ignorance is the only certainty, even if it is ignorance that I'm right.

Makes sense now?