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stetson7
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I am a little confused as to why multi training is preferred. I have tried searching all over for a post that specifically defines the math behind concept and its advantages and have yeet to find one that clearly shows the advantages.
things that dont seem to add up
mulit training results in fewer Bonus tokens than normal training -4 per training cycle
no real advantage in use of training points,
no advantage in increases in training over normal other than possible crit annomolies( which i am not sure about as i cannot find any posts on this mechanic)
any help or links to this information would be helpful
 
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The % gains from 4 way multi training are all the advantage a dot needs.
 
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Originally posted by Bane
The % gains from 4 way multi training are all the advantage a dot needs.


as long as you have also enhanced those attributes too
 
Hagalaz
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Originally posted by stetson7
I am a little confused as to why multi training is preferred. I have tried searching all over for a post that specifically defines the math behind concept and its advantages and have yeet to find one that clearly shows the advantages.
things that dont seem to add up
mulit training results in fewer Bonus tokens than normal training -4 per training cycle
no real advantage in use of training points,
no advantage in increases in training over normal other than possible crit annomolies( which i am not sure about as i cannot find any posts on this mechanic)
any help or links to this information would be helpful


It's very simple. Let's say you are training an attribute for 50% each train and you do it twenty times. You've accrued 80 BTs and you raised the attribute 10 points.

Now, let's see what would happen if you were doing 4-way multi (assuming each attribute would have 50% trained on normal as well)... You'd get 5 sessions of training instead of 20, each giving you 12 BT, so 60 BT. You would raise 80% on each attribute per session, meaning you'd raise 5 * 4 * 0.8 = 16 points raised in attributes. So, you are trading off 20 BT for 6 points in attributes in this example.

Do you understand now ? The problem is that you thought multi doesn't give any increase over normal: It gives two. First, multi-train is always intense train (30% bonus) and each attribute you multi train in addition to the first adds 10% bonus, so 30% more.

EDIT: This might help you http://wiki.goallineblitz.com/index.php/Training

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Intense = largest single attribute bonus +2 bonus tokens
Normal = medium training bonus (70.83% of Intense Training Value) +4 bonus tokens
Light = small training bonus (33.33% of Intense Training Value) +6 bonus tokens
Multi Train Two Attributes - 105% of Intense Training Value +4 bonus tokens
Multi Train Three Attributes - 120% of Intense Training Value +8 bonus tokens
Multi Train Four Attibutes - 130% of Intense Training Value +12 bonus tokens
Edited by Hagalaz on Feb 21, 2013 11:01:13
 
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the fact that your mother makes me breakfast in the morning.
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stetson7
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thanks Hagalaz
thats the informaiton i needed.
 
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Is that The WorstGuy's actual avatar pic, or did he really get banned for that comment? Funny either way.
 
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Originally posted by lucastyler42
Is that The WorstGuy's actual avatar pic, or did he really get banned for that comment? Funny either way.


Its his avatar
 
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I don't think you can really compare 4way multi training to normal training.... since the bulk of your multi training would be done to replace intense training.... You should really compare those 2 because one would prefer to train on intense for a great deal of time instead of normal training.. and we really want to justify the gains of 4way...

So, take your 20 training sessions of intense training and you get 40BT's where you would get 60 BT's for 4way multi training... These extra BT's will allow you to enhance training on those 4 attributes even more, which will result in even higher training gains per attribute.

Take a boomer kicker...All the creation is set the same: Start with 22 strength, 10 Confidence, 8 vision and 25 kicking
Train until day 19: With 4way you get 20 training session and with intense you get 35.

using no boosts and not apply any SP or enhancing any training.... Intense training only kicking gets you:
Strength 26.69 (+4.69)
Confidence 14.69 (+4.69)
Kicking 45.69 (+20.69)
Vision 10.31 (+2.31)
For a total of 32.38 skill points earned from training and ALG's and 92 BT's earned

4way multi train these attributes and you get:
Strength 31.69 (+9.69)
Confidence 21.69 (+11.69)
Kicking 39.69 (+14.69) only a difference of 6 SP from intense training
Vision 18.31 (+10.31)
For a total of 46.38 skill points earned (difference of +14 SP from 4way train) and 84 BT's earned (12 less than intense)
 
Hagalaz
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Well, since intense and normal training gains are percentages of each other and multi-training is applying a percentage gain on top of intense, don't you think that you can in fact compare them as they are basically all percentages of each other ?
 
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Originally posted by Hagalaz
Well, since intense and normal training gains are percentages of each other and multi-training is applying a percentage gain on top of intense, don't you think that you can in fact compare them as they are basically all percentages of each other ?

I do
 
Hagalaz
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Sooo mr bane... How's the new plo'koon going ?
 
Bane
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I've got a couple going actually

SPAT Punter is my furthest along ATM , can't link from phone but if you want to search through my 150+ dots for him, is like lvl55ish and all my punter builds are open

Wow that really derails a thread, eh?

ETA: might be easier to just look for punter on my casual team
Edited by Bane on Feb 22, 2013 08:48:45
 
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Why is it better to 4-way multitrain than 5-way multitrain then, especially for players that have many attributes that need to be "well-rounded", like LBs and TEs, not so much the Ks and Ps?
 
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I didn't know you could 5-way train.

 
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