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Myself and others have suggested this before and it has been ignored. The current generic names of the various minor leagues suck. I mean, suck really bad. Sucks so bad I want to drive my fist through my monitor. Yes, it fills me with much rage.

Would be awesome to give the non-Pro/WL leagues geographical names. From rookie all the way up to reg pro. I think this would add a lot of excitement back to the lower leagues.

I am not requesting bringing back the pyramid. Just merely giving the other leagues some identity. Hell, USA, Canada, Africa, Oceania, ect... are no longer being used. Why not use those? They won't have any tie-ins with the Pro leagues. Just a nice name change from this reg minor, semi-pro, prep league shit we have now.

Naming the minors on up rookie, prep, university... was a shit idea that was unpopular to begin with. Why continue on with these sterile names that most everyone hates?

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Warhawk's idea is probably even better. How about tagging leagues with specific geographical names that they keep all the way through the minors?


Once they reach reg pro they will be playing in their continent/area.

For example, a team starting out in rookie would be the Siberian league. They would continue through the cloud as the Siberian league until they hit regional pro. At that point they would be combined with other teams to comprise Eastern Europe. Names could be recycled every time a group makes their way to reg pro.

There are a lot more reg pro teams than there are minor teams per tier. This would definitely need some tweaking.


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For example...

National Minors...

Elite = USA
Comp = Western US
Non comp = Eastern US

This could be adjusted in a number of ways. Something like...

Elite = USA
Comp1 = Western US
Comp2 = Eastern US
Non Comp1 = Mid South
Non Comp2 = Midwest

Elite = Africa
Comp 1 = North Africa
Comp 2 = South Africa
Non Comp1 = Nile
Non Comp2 = Madagascar

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Reg Pro = USA
Semi Pro = Canada

Let the chips fall where they may for Nat Minor on down.


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It would be great to do something like this... gets downright confusing when you have several dots at different age ranges and/or crossing between normal and casual leagues.

ideally, each league would have some kind of identity. might be tough to do since (below Nat Pro) from season to season there can be a different number of leagues needed at each level

It would only be tough if they ignore the userbase. I'm sure we could come up with some pretty awesome names and have enough to spare in the event more leagues needed to be added.

-1. Who cares. And an extra -1 for the OP posting 6 out of 7 times.

Come up with a better plan and I'd agree.

For now I think you'd just cloud up the system and tiers more with random names.

You see the problem with naming leagues like that comes from never knowing how many of them you will have from season to season, and I doubt support wants to answer why they used USA and Africa over Europe or Antarctica. Catch my drift?

Originally posted by Pwned
Come up with a better plan and I'd agree.

For now I think you'd just cloud up the system and tiers more with random names.

You see the problem with naming leagues like that comes from never knowing how many of them you will have from season to season, and I doubt support wants to answer why they used USA and Africa over Europe or Antarctica. Catch my drift?





As it stands now, one season there may be 4 leagues. Possibly elite, comp, and league1 & 2 (non-comp). Next season there may only be three so the comp#2 gets dropped or the third is made competitive and the tier would have elite and comp1 and comp2.

What's the difference between dropping non-comp league #2 from dropping "Mid South" or "Nile"? The admins wouldn't have to do anything they aren't doing now. Simply drop the league if it's not needed and pick it back up later when there are enough teams.

As for people not liking what their league is named...I'm sure most would be much happier with playing in a league named "Nile" or "Midwest" than Prep League #4. I really don't see people complaining about it.

As far as confusion, I don't see how "Mid South", "Siberia", "Nile", ect... is more confusing than University Competitive #2, University Competitive #3, University League #4. It's actually the opposite imo.

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not going to let a terrible troll with an IQ in single digits get me banned

Originally posted by Dub J
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not going to let a terrible troll with an IQ in single digits get me banned



wouldn't your above post be considered a personal attack and could possibly be considered a bannable offense?

Well, if I don't name anyone I don't see how it could be construed as a personal attack.

Go shit post elsewhere please.

I actually don't mind the names as they are, though certainly any new idea is worth considering.

The problem with your suggestion as I understand it (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that the naming system you're suggesting seems relatively arbitrary, in the sense that it's not necessarily readily apparent the difference between leagues in terms of tier and competitiveness. While the names right now may be, as you and certainly others feel, a bit bland, the upside is clarity. Certainly there are some ways to address that, but, if, for instance, you changed Regional Minor to use Africa-related names, and University to use Oceania related names, it might get a bit confusing in terms of, say, promoting from New Zealand to East Africa.

If we were to switch to a system like this, actually, what I'd really like to see is, instead of promoting into a league with a different name, keep the league names at one level the same from rookie through semi-pro, and just move them up the ladder, and once a semi-pro season is ended, you could drop those leagues back down and they'd be the next season's rookie leagues. So, e.g., say in a particular season what would currently be the rookie leagues would be called, instead, Africa/North Africa/South Africa/Madagascar/Nile, or something to that effect. Instead of promoting teams out of that into completely different leagues at the end of the season, you could instead move those leagues up to what is now "prep" and just move around the teams inside those leagues according to competitiveness. This would provide more continuity for lower level teams, and the added benefit is that a system where you stay in your "region" throughout your movement up toward Reg Pro might actually encourage people to voluntarily follow certain naming conventions based on the theme of the region - so you'd probably see quite a few people, the season where rookie is Africa, choosing African-themed names.

Coincidentally this seems to be a good time to bring up my old suggestion that people seemed to like but nothing was ever done about of moving the league forums up with the teams, so that, e.g., if you started in rookie, the rookie forum and its contents would be moved up at the end of the season and renamed prep, also building more continuity and fostering rivalries, instead of every offseason having to move into a new forum and try to get rid of the crap the last people left there, while other people move into your old forum and dispose of the crap you yourself left.

Basically, I think what needs to be done to foster activity at the lower levels is to stop thinking of them as a set of levels, rookie/prep/university/etc. that you move through on your way to the uncapped leagues, but start thinking of each level of teams as a "class" which is progressing together. So, for the rookie teams now, the paradigm shouldn't be "they're rookie now, then they'll be prep next season, then university" and shuffling them between forums and league names, but instead, "they're the class of Season 33" and try to maintain continuity within that set of leagues.

Originally posted by Warhawk
I actually don't mind the names as they are, though certainly any new idea is worth considering.

The problem with your suggestion as I understand it (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that the naming system you're suggesting seems relatively arbitrary, in the sense that it's not necessarily readily apparent the difference between leagues in terms of tier and competitiveness. While the names right now may be, as you and certainly others feel, a bit bland, the upside is clarity. Certainly there are some ways to address that, but, if, for instance, you changed Regional Minor to use Africa-related names, and University to use Oceania related names, it might get a bit confusing in terms of, say, promoting from New Zealand to East Africa.

If we were to switch to a system like this, actually, what I'd really like to see is, instead of promoting into a league with a different name, keep the league names at one level the same from rookie through semi-pro, and just move them up the ladder, and once a semi-pro season is ended, you could drop those leagues back down and they'd be the next season's rookie leagues. So, e.g., say in a particular season what would currently be the rookie leagues would be called, instead, Africa/North Africa/South Africa/Madagascar/Nile, or something to that effect.

Instead of promoting teams out of that into completely different leagues at the end of the season, you could instead move those leagues up to what is now "prep" and just move around the teams inside those leagues according to competitiveness. This would provide more continuity for lower level teams, and the added benefit is that a system where you stay in your "region" throughout your movement up toward Reg Pro might actually encourage people to voluntarily follow certain naming conventions based on the theme of the region - so you'd probably see quite a few people, the season where rookie is Africa, choosing African-themed names.

Tagging leagues with a set name is a good idea. Basically reintroducing the pyramid names to the cloud league set-up.

Or have a hybrid of the pyramid names along with the current names. Either one works for me.

I'll try to repost something along the lines of your idea. Tell me if I screw something up. lol