Warrior General Games

You roll a +2 Attribute & Something desirable, like for instance a +2 Speed Superior Vision for a speed Cornerback.

Do you suck up the perma -1 to max speed in order to save the BTs so that you can multi train longer?

pass unless it's the only way to save the build imo

I don't usually take SA tree pieces unless they are at the end of the tree or there isn't a good set of % AEQ.

For a CB there are Deflect ball, make tackle, and avoid fake. There are also int chance, catch ball, force fumble, and break block for specialized builds.

I would take a +2, +5% piece if the attribute was right and it was for a slot you do not already have AEQ.

I would not take a + 2, +1 SA piece for a CB.

Nope. I'm too much of a perfectionist.

I would take a +2, +5% piece if the attribute was right and it was for a slot you do not already have AEQ.

Originally posted by slashxtreme
I would take a +2, +5% piece if the attribute was right and it was for a slot you do not already have AEQ.

This. ^^^ More often I look for a +3 only... or a 5% only piece since they're easier to come by than a combo piece. Then I simply add whatever I want to it. Also, I'm not a fan of rolling more than 3 to 5 times per log-in. If I don't get what I want, I'll train some more and try again later. It seems to work better than sitting there and re-rolling 10, 15, 20 plus times out of frustration.

Originally posted by slashxtreme
I would take a +2, +5% piece if the attribute was right and it was for a slot you do not already have AEQ.

+1

Settling on AE is kind of silly to me. How much did you spend for your last point of your major? 7 SPs, 8 SPs, more? 7 SPs = 105 BTs. That is the value you are losing by going for a +2 vs. a +3. Why are you willing to spend 7 or more SPs to get one point, but you are not willing to spend 20-30 BTs shopping further or just going ahead and making it to get the same 1 point?

^ because you may not have enough BT to get 3 or 4 pieces fully upgrade and roll an extra 10 times for the +1 more in your major that will already finish at 157+ with EQ

For example I have a LB that is gonna be 4BT short of fully upgrading his 4th piece. Had I settled for a +2 a few rolls sooner.....
That last upgrade will cost a %point or a +1 to the SA

Sometimes you just settle for close to perfect if it comes your way. That's what my wife says about me

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
This. ^^^ More often I look for a +3 only... or a 5% only piece since they're easier to come by than a combo piece. Then I simply add whatever I want to it. Also, I'm not a fan of rolling more than 3 to 5 times per log-in. If I don't get what I want, I'll train some more and try again later. It seems to work better than sitting there and re-rolling 10, 15, 20 plus times out of frustration.

I have a hard time walking away....

Originally posted by Plankton
Settling on AE is kind of silly to me. How much did you spend for your last point of your major? 7 SPs, 8 SPs, more? 7 SPs = 105 BTs. That is the value you are losing by going for a +2 vs. a +3. Why are you willing to spend 7 or more SPs to get one point, but you are not willing to spend 20-30 BTs shopping further or just going ahead and making it to get the same 1 point?


My only thought is this

If I have an extra 24-36 BTs by settling that is two to three more multi trains.

In those two to three multi trains I may pick up far more than 7 SPs from rolling over the four attributes I am training.

Which is why I asked. I presume someone here has done the math on it, and can give some opinion from that view point.

However I am sensing the over all mood and I have to say its what I do as well - wait for the +3 or the +5% etc - but I am curious if its one of those hunches that the math mocks.

Originally posted by Bane
^ because you may not have enough BT to get 3 or 4 pieces fully upgrade and roll an extra 10 times for the +1 more in your major that will already finish at 157+ with EQ

For example I have a LB that is gonna be 4BT short of fully upgrading his 4th piece. Had I settled for a +2 a few rolls sooner.....
That last upgrade will cost a %point or a +1 to the SA

Sometimes you just settle for close to perfect if it comes your way. That's what my wife says about me

All marriages after 35 are settling....unless you wind up making a bajillion bucks and buy one off the top shelf.

Originally posted by yello1
My only thought is this

If I have an extra 24-36 BTs by settling that is two to three more multi trains.

In those two to three multi trains I may pick up far more than 7 SPs from rolling over the four attributes I am training.

Which is why I asked. I presume someone here has done the math on it, and can give some opinion from that view point.

However I am sensing the over all mood and I have to say its what I do as well - wait for the +3 or the +5% etc - but I am curious if its one of those hunches that the math mocks.



The difference in multi-training and light training your 2nd thru 5th attributes is about 7-10% per training. If you assume 3 additional multi-training sessions (36 fewer BTs needed), that is at best ~120% training. However, that is spread over 4 attributes, so it is not really a case where it makes it significantly easier to roll over those attributes. In all likelihood, if they were ~70% when you needed to switch to light, you would go ahead and just light train them to rollover. Obviously, if you are able to get 6+ additional multi-training sessions in (72 fewer BTs needed), then you can realistically think that you would gain alot of SPs, since you could gain ~ 1 point in all of your attributes that you are multi-training.

I think the more likely impact of settling is that you would need fewer light trains to rollover attributes, and would thus have more light trains to spend on your lower secondaries at the end. However, I would give up 5 Confidence for 1 Speed on a CB every time. That's just my opinion tho.

Can I change the team name?

Originally posted by Plankton
Settling on AE is kind of silly to me. How much did you spend for your last point of your major? 7 SPs, 8 SPs, more? 7 SPs = 105 BTs. That is the value you are losing by going for a +2 vs. a +3. Why are you willing to spend 7 or more SPs to get one point, but you are not willing to spend 20-30 BTs shopping further or just going ahead and making it to get the same 1 point?


The main reason is this; If you end up spending 20-30 BT's for that extra +1 on one piece of AEQ... and again for your next piece of AEQ... and again for your next piece of AEQ... you have now spent 60-100 BT's. And that could be the difference between owning 3 fully tricked out pieces of AEQ... or 4 fully tricked out pieces of AEQ. Add to that that, as yellow posted above...

Originally posted by yello1
I have a hard time walking away....

It's real easy to fall into the "But I've already invested 30 BT's into this damned piece and I STILL haven't gotten the perfect piece yet!!!" trap... and then you just keep rolling... and spending... and rolling... and spending... ect, ect, ect. Not good.
I do agree with you though in that you should set your goals high and be willing to push it to get that +3. Just like playing poker though... set your limits and stick to your plan.. and don't be afraid to take a little less rather than always go for broke.

And, to Yellow I'd say... yeah. That's why you make a plan and stick to it. Without a plan it's easy to just keep going blindly on and ruin things. I'll say that, if you try it the way most others do (limit the number of times you roll per log-in)... you'll see what they saw and it'll be easier to do. I know. I was once you.