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When judging how well a CB is doing.

Assuming that he is not noticeably being beaten with speed or losing coverage on quick turns, or constantly being faked out more than the norm.

How do you measure him on Targets and Receptions Allowed?

In particular, I have a dot that always is targeted far more than my other CBs.

But he deflects a decent percentage of them.

Does the high amount of targets mean he is not covering as tightly and therefore the opposing QB sees his receiver open more often? In other words, is that a bad thing that would make you want to release or hide him in the depth chart? Or is it just random or the result of his position on the DC?

Or is the only thing that matters what percentage of targets are not allowed?

Or are those two bits of information not at all relevant?

Not relevant. Even best GLB CBs give uo catches at an inordinate rate. Bascially how GLB is built - favoring offense over defense in every respect. Just ahve to learn to deal with it and stop posting dumb threads, tbh.

Originally posted by Toriq
Not relevant. Even best GLB CBs give uo catches at an inordinate rate. Bascially how GLB is built - favoring offense over defense in every respect. Just ahve to learn to deal with it and stop posting dumb threads, tbh.

noooo change it so yello can win

(Deflections + KLs + INTs) / Targets. It's not perfect, but it's the only way I can think of to measure the impact of the CB himself without so much noise from bad throws and such.

Originally posted by Toriq
Not relevant. Even best GLB CBs give uo catches at an inordinate rate. Bascially how GLB is built - favoring offense over defense in every respect. Just ahve to learn to deal with it and stop posting dumb threads, tbh.



Well yes I did not mean to suggest that any catches given up was bad.

What I meant was in comparison to other CBs on the team?

Lets say I have three CBs who have CBA 50 targets 20 allowed, CBB 20 targets and 10 allowed and CBC 25 targets and 10 allowed.

Assuming all are always in man cover, and all other things literally being equal, is CBB your better CB because he has covered his men better so that he has been targetted the least? Or is CBC the better CB because he has been targetted the least AND allowed a lower percentage of his targets? Or are CBA and CBC the better and the same because they have the lowest and same percentage of targets allowed?

Or are you really saying it doesn't matter whatsoever even comparatively???

If the latter - then how do you compare the performance of your CBs at all? Assuming they all seem to shuffle their dots around the field and their assignment equally???

i say recallowed/targets

whether the CB is named Yes Man: or not

Originally posted by jdbolick
(Deflections + KLs + INTs) / Targets. It's not perfect, but it's the only way I can think of to measure the impact of the CB himself without so much noise from bad throws and such.

Hmm interesting.

Ignores the catches not made because of his proximity.

But does allow for his successes in double coverage and zone and just helping out.

Looking at that and my CBs really gives unexpected results. My CB5 should be starting it seems.

Originally posted by yello1
When judging how well a CB is doing.

Assuming that he is not noticeably being beaten with speed or losing coverage on quick turns, or constantly being faked out more than the norm.

How do you measure him on Targets and Receptions Allowed?

In particular, I have a dot that always is targeted far more than my other CBs.

But he deflects a decent percentage of them.

Does the high amount of targets mean he is not covering as tightly and therefore the opposing QB sees his receiver open more often? In other words, is that a bad thing that would make you want to release or hide him in the depth chart? Or is it just random or the result of his position on the DC?

Or is the only thing that matters what percentage of targets are not allowed?

Or are those two bits of information not at all relevant?



Can't look at them by game, look at the stats by season. The best CBs are allowing a third of the passes their way to be complete.

I think you would also have to ignore games vs. CPU Dots and teams not in an Elite league.

Originally posted by jampysos
i say recallowed/targets



Originally posted by Timetoshine-Metta
whether the CB is named Yes Man: or not

Imagine my surprise when you didnt have a CB by that name

Originally posted by Dr. E


Can't look at them by game, look at the stats by season. The best CBs are allowing a third of the passes their way to be complete.

I think you would also have to ignore games vs. CPU Dots and teams not in an Elite league.

Yeah, definitely season long etc. I concur.

Originally posted by yello1
My CB5 should be starting it seems.

all of my cb 5's start

Originally posted by jampysos
i say recallowed/targets
No, because that doesn't factor bad throws or deflections by other players.

Originally posted by jdbolick

No, because that doesn't factor bad throws or deflections by other players.


If the CB you are comparing it to has similar competition,
this works fine.

Watch film - you may see a dot dominate like this, in a wl title game too

Originally posted by Dpride59
One man wrecking crew single handedly dominating MPHD

breaks block makes tackle
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8952866

gets around 2 blockers makes tackle
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8952777

making plays against the run
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8952350

knock loose on 3rd and 6
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8951942

Locking down who had been near unstoppable
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8951518

Saves a Touchdown and they settle for a fg at the end of the half
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8951359

I posted this earlier but wow, what a play
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8951123


no clue how he makes this play but he does
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2209368&pbp_id=8950453

Originally posted by jampysos
If the CB you are comparing it to has similar competition,
this works fine.
It really doesn't.