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This player has great technique when fighting blockers. Each level of Technique Man gives a +2% bonus to breaking pass blocks when using the Evasive pass rush tactic, if the blocker has at least 10% less agility.


Q1) am I reading this correcting does that this will fire if the blocker has 90% or less of my agility? or could i have to have 110% of his. Makes a difference by a point if they are within 10. My LB has naked agility of 91, so to fire would their agility need 90% less (82 or less) or 110% of their agility (81 or less). One point might not seem like much, but changes depending on answer to #2.

Q2) is the 10%, whichever way its calculated, inclusive of EQ, or other adjustments, including other VAs or SAs that would boost agility all the time (like Quick) or situationally increase agility (like Pass Rusher on 3rd Down).

PS... comments about the overall value of this VA on a LB are fine--fully expect someone to post "TM sucks don't use it", but right more interested in the mechanics before I even consider whether or not it would be the best investment. I also expect posts telling me the average agility of a level 79 OT--I know its going to be higher than 81 or 82--that's why Q2 is there.

Q1 - not sure

Q2 - Per Bort posts repeated here, it is calculated based upon the Agilities as modified by all effects in place prior to kick off. So it does count CEQ, AEQ, and game long VA and SA adjustments that may apply. It does not count the effects that vary from play to play, such as Pass Rusher on 3rd Down.

Originally posted by yello1
Q1 - not sure

Q2 - Per Bort posts repeated here, it is calculated based upon the Agilities as modified by all effects in place prior to kick off. So it does count CEQ, AEQ, and game long VA and SA adjustments that may apply. It does not count the effects that vary from play to play, such as Pass Rusher on 3rd Down.

awesome quick response... thanks!

Originally posted by fogie55
This player has great technique when fighting blockers. Each level of Technique Man gives a +2% bonus to breaking pass blocks when using the Evasive pass rush tactic, if the blocker has at least 10% less agility.


Q1) am I reading this correcting does that this will fire if the blocker has 90% or less of my agility? or could i have to have 110% of his. Makes a difference by a point if they are within 10. My LB has naked agility of 91, so to fire would their agility need 90% less (82 or less) or 110% of their agility (81 or less). One point might not seem like much, but changes depending on answer to #2.

Q2) is the 10%, whichever way its calculated, inclusive of EQ, or other adjustments, including other VAs or SAs that would boost agility all the time (like Quick) or situationally increase agility (like Pass Rusher on 3rd Down).

PS... comments about the overall value of this VA on a LB are fine--fully expect someone to post "TM sucks don't use it", but right more interested in the mechanics before I even consider whether or not it would be the best investment. I also expect posts telling me the average agility of a level 79 OT--I know its going to be higher than 81 or 82--that's why Q2 is there.

q1: If the defender has 100, you need 110+. If the defender has 90, you need 99+. If the defender has 80, you need 88+.
q2: Yello1 has answered but we should clarify that stuff such as protector SA does NOT get counted. Anything that only works if a certain condition is true is not counted.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
q1: If the defender has 100, you need 110+. If the defender has 90, you need 99+. If the defender has 80, you need 88+.
q2: Yello1 has answered but we should clarify that stuff such as protector SA does NOT get counted. Anything that only works if a certain condition is true is not counted.

thanks Hagalaz...I will assume by defender you mean guy who is blocking/defending the pocket/QB...if not I'm totally confused

Originally posted by fogie55
thanks Hagalaz...I will assume by defender you mean guy who is blocking/defending the pocket/QB...if not I'm totally confusedo_O




Yes...he meant if the Oline player has 100 you need 110 and so on.

Argh yes >_< sorry, brain freeze, I typed that at like 3 am... By defender I meant blocker.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
q1: If the defender has 100, you need 110+. If the defender has 90, you need 99+. If the defender has 80, you need 88+.
q2: Yello1 has answered but we should clarify that stuff such as protector SA does NOT get counted. Anything that only works if a certain condition is true is not counted.

I could be mistaken, but "if blocker has 10% less agility" implies my agility - 10% or (My Agility * .9) > blockers agility.

which would mean

blocker has 100, you'd need 111.111+, blocker has 90, you'd need 100+, blocker has 80, you'd need 88.888

if it said "10% more agility than blocker" then i think it would be blockers agility * 1.1

Originally posted by bigfatguy64
I could be mistaken, but "if blocker has 10% less agility" implies my agility - 10% or (My Agility * .9) > blockers agility.

which would mean

blocker has 100, you'd need 111.111+, blocker has 90, you'd need 100+, blocker has 80, you'd need 88.888

if it said "10% more agility than blocker" then i think it would be blockers agility * 1.1

We already established he worded it wrong...like 3 days ago. Look at the post directly above yours.

so we dont currently have a definitive answer on whether Protector bonus to AGL is included in the calculation ?
Im guessing it doesnt include it ...

Originally posted by oaklandraider
so we dont currently have a definitive answer on whether Protector bonus to AGL is included in the calculation ?
Im guessing it doesnt include it ...

It doesn't.

Definitive answer.

Originally posted by oaklandraider
so we dont currently have a definitive answer on whether Protector bonus to AGL is included in the calculation ?
Im guessing it doesnt include it ...

We do have a definite answer that it is NOT included.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
We do have a definite answer that it is NOT included.

cool - thanks