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sehorn31
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What actually makes the QB pull the Trigger? Whatever it is, We need to address this. Here is one example: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2211711&pbp_id=1057477 This WR is Wide Open and he sees him and doesn't Throw the Ball? Instead he checks down to the TE and then gets Sacked. It's things like this that drive me crazy. What makes a QB NOT Throw the Ball to a WR he is Targeting when he is Wide Open?
Edited by sehorn31 on Dec 7, 2012 06:33:42
Edited by sehorn31 on Dec 7, 2012 06:33:05
 
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What are the QB's tactics set to?
 
sehorn31
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Don't really think the Tactic Settings are a concern...You can't really Set it to Throw Quickly when Receiver is Open. FYI, He does have 75% Quick Release and 15 Quick Read...Which I'm starting to wonder if it even works?
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
Don't really think the Tactic Settings are a concern...


Un-correct, my friend.

What is your QB's Passing Priority tactic set to? It's a sliding scale from -100 (Open Man) to +100 (Route Distance). That DEFINITELY affects when your QB decides to throw the ball.

One other thing to consider as well... the WR is yelling "I'm Open!", sure, but there is a CB in the passing lane. Depending on whether your QB was set more to a throwing style of Bullet or Lofty, that could affect the QB's risk calculation. Most people play with Bullet, and a low-thrown Bullet pass could've easily been picked off by that CB. (Which could start us on a conversation about letting QBs have a more dynamic throwing style depending on the situation, but that's a topic for another Suggestion...) In contrast, the TE had nobody on him at all and was also yelling "I'm Open!", so the QB was trying to decide which target was the better one.

So... as IdRatherFlyFish asked, what are the QB's tactics set to? If his throwing style is 100% Bullet, there's your answer. And if he is anything other than 100% Open Man, that could factor in as well. So, yes, your Tactics Settings are not only a concern, they're very likely THE concern.
 
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Considering it was 3rd and .5 to go, I doubt his open man to distance ratio mattered too much, since 1 tick in the WR pretty much has enough distance for a first down.

I think it's more of an issue of how QB's won't throw the ball until the WR "finishes" his route or reaches his "sweet spot" in the route.
 
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Originally posted by TehKyou
Considering it was 3rd and .5 to go, I doubt his open man to distance ratio mattered too much, since 1 tick in the WR pretty much has enough distance for a first down.

I think it's more of an issue of how QB's won't throw the ball until the WR "finishes" his route or reaches his "sweet spot" in the route.


Possibly, but then there's his Throwing Style Tactic as well. Again, if he's set to Bullet, that CB was absolutely in position to pick off a low-thrown Bullet pass. If he's set to 100% Lofty, then okay, he has an argument, since that CB had no prayer of breaking up a lofty pass. But I don't know many QBs who play at 100% Lofty.
 
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TBH, I never think of dots as being that smart. I know the risk assessment for the QB involves defender proximity (which multiplies when there are more than one) One QA answer mentions "position" too.

However I still don't think dots are smart enough to know that their passes get no lift. Otherwise these QB's would never throw passes since there would always be defenders in the line of fire (DLineman, CB's trailing half a yard. etc.)
Edited by TehKyou on Dec 8, 2012 09:23:31
Edited by TehKyou on Dec 8, 2012 09:22:45
Edited by TehKyou on Dec 8, 2012 09:22:32
 
sehorn31
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He's Set to 100% Open Man and -60 on the Pass Slider.
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
He's Set to 100% Open Man and -60 on the Pass Slider.


100% Open Man means we can eliminate that factor, then. But we still needed to know.

-60 would be mostly Bullet then, so the CB being between the QB and the WR could definitely affect the QB's risk calculation and make him hesitate on the throw. Then the TE yelled "I'm Open!" too, and that drew the QB's attention right before he got sacked.

I don't know about you, but when my QB has a choice between a WR who is somewhat covered and a TE who isn't being covered at all, I want my QB to choose the guy who's not covered at all.
 
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Originally posted by TehKyou
Otherwise these QB's would never throw passes since there would always be defenders in the line of fire (DLineman, CB's trailing half a yard. etc.)


Well, it's all situational. We do see QBs attempt risky passes, of course... particularly if the other passing targets are even riskier.

However, in this case the QB's choices were a somewhat risky target (the WR with a CB in his passing lane) and a target with no risk at all (the TE who had nobody covering him at all). QBs in GLB favor targets that are less risky, and the QB realized he had a target that was less-risky than the WR... but got sacked before he could pass to that less-risky target.

I WANT my QBs to throw to the less-risky targets, so if we implement this Suggestion, it may very well end up being a case of "Be careful what you wish for... you just might get it."
 


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