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AlBarsch
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You know, the H back position... TE and FB should be interchangeable within offense
 
fogie55
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+1 to H Backs
 
Theo Wizzago
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At the very least the OOP penalty should be lower than standard 5%... more like 2% tops.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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-1 as it's exploitable

People would just build FBs.
 
fogie55
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
-1 as it's exploitable

People would just build FBs.


how is that an exploit? FP cost is the same
 
aaasahi
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Originally posted by fogie55
how is that an exploit? FP cost is the same


FB:4 major
TE:5 major
Obviously.
 
Kirghiz
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
At the very least the OOP penalty should be lower than standard 5%... more like 2% tops.


Originally posted by aaasahi
FB:4 major
TE:5 major
Obviously.


In reality, a FB is still probably better if the OoP is 5% for that reason.
 
Longhornfan1024
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Just add plays that actually employ an H back and change the OOP to around 1%.
 
Cleveland Browns
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+1 to the OP there is no exploit if they cost the same...
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
+1 to the OP there is no exploit if they cost the same...


The exploit is not in cost. It's in differences in ALGs. See below, aaasahi got it. There would be almost no reason to ever create a TE.

Originally posted by aaasahi
FB:4 major
TE:5 major
Obviously.


 
sehorn31
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
At the very least the OOP penalty should be lower than standard 5%... more like 2% tops.


How did you get there is a 5% Standard OOP? I heard the DE/OLB wasn't as high as others and thought FB/TE would be the same as DE/OLB but I have never seen a Chart of the OOP and no one would ever tell me so how do you know this? I even made a suggestion for GLB to Release a OOP Chart and everyone acted like I spit in there coffee.
Edited by sehorn31 on Nov 27, 2012 08:46:56
 
aaasahi
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I never heard OOP between DE/OLB is low..............
 
whodey08
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No one knows for sure what the OOP is for any position and Bort wants it to remain secret. The assumption is 5% penalty for related positions and 10% or more for unrelated positions.
 
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the OOP affects all attributes, right? it should really only affect Football Skills. there is no circumstance in real life (sigh i know, bear with me) when a player loses raw physical capabilities from merely being at a different position.
Edited by PenFifteen on Nov 27, 2012 09:21:59
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by PenFifteen
the OOP affects all attributes, right? it should really only affect Football Skills. there is no circumstance in real life (sigh i know, bare with me) when a player loses raw physical capabilities from merely being at a different position.


That's all well and dandy, but this is a game.

Users will always find advantages in anyway possible. Realism has to take a backseat to insuring gameplay is fair and reasonable.
 
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