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Say I wanted to only change the packages in my AI for 1 team. If i coppied the packages to a certain team package page, would that in turn only change the packages for that team? Or for every team I use the Ai with?

Just that team

I could be wrong but i believe its like this:

Use team AI than you have to use team plays

Use MY AI and you have to use to MY Plays


I don't think you can use MY AI with team plays but I could be completely wrong!! I dont recall seeing an option to pick the SIM to use MY PLAYS or TEAM PLAYS so I asssumed if you used MY AI than it used MY PLAYS and if you used Team AI than it used Team Plays.

bah...my memory sucks

Originally posted by whodey08
I could be wrong but i believe its like this:

Use team AI than you have to use team plays

Use MY AI and you have to use to MY Plays


I don't think you can use MY AI with team plays but I could be completely wrong!! I dont recall seeing an option to pick the SIM to use MY PLAYS or TEAM PLAYS so I asssumed if you used MY AI than it used MY PLAYS and if you used Team AI than it used Team Plays.

You are right and wrong

You are correct that you can not pick a custom play from anything but My Plays if you are defining the play explicitly in the My AI. HOWEVER, you can pick packages from either My Packages or Team Packages, AND a My Package can have plays from Team Plays, My Plays or GM Plays. Thus, you can have a My AI with Team Plays if you use packages.

With that said, I would not do that, as those packages would not work properly if you assign that AI to a different team.

Originally posted by Plankton
You are right and wrong

You are correct that you can not pick a custom play from anything but My Plays if you are defining the play explicitly in the My AI. HOWEVER, you can pick packages from either My Packages or Team Packages, AND a My Package can have plays from Team Plays, My Plays or GM Plays. Thus, you can have a My AI with Team Plays if you use packages.

With that said, I would not do that, as those packages would not work properly if you assign that AI to a different team.

I am confused. How does the SIM know whether to use the plays in "MY Packages" or the plays in "Team Packages"? I am encountering those issues right now!! We just played a game and it did not use the packages I set up

Here is my situation....any help appreciated:

I have MY AI which I copied to the team AI for the Canucklehead Brigade team and also copied MY AI to the team AI for Yukon Huskies.

I have MY Packages which I copied to TEAM Packages for both of the above mentioned teams.

So I have TEAM AI set as active default for both teams. I assume that it will use the packages from the Team Packages. However....I changed a bunch of the plays in the Team Packages for Canucklehead Brigade yet it went off the plays that I had in My Packages for our regular season game today and we lost.

I am so confused right now

One thing I'm careful to do is rename the packages/AI's so that MY packages/AIs do not have the same name as the TEAM packages/AI's.

I see this in bugs fairly often -- the sim called the "wrong" play because the names of the packages/ais were the same and the coordinator got confused as to which was the actual one used (or should be used).

Whodey - hit me up with a GM invite if you'd like for me to steal .. errr.. look at your AI

Peace,

Fish

Originally posted by whodey08
I am confused. How does the SIM know whether to use the plays in "MY Packages" or the plays in "Team Packages"?


As I understand it, every play has a unique identifier (number). You can see that identifier when you hover your mouse over the play or if you look at the url to edit a play. I realize you will not be able to see this play, but this is one of the custom plays that belong to me (i.e. in My Plays) - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_create_defense.pl?team_id=1655&play_id=1624002 . Thus the identifier is 1624002. If I look at the same play from a different team, it has the same identifier: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_create_defense.pl?team_id=2968&play_id=1624002 . Thus, the sim simply reads the play id to get the information about the play. The same is true of packages and their IDs.

For my coding experience, I assume that Bort coded the play definition to include a field for the type of play (i.e. personal or team) as well as field(s) to assign who has rights to view a play. This seems like the most logical way for the current system to be coded to work as it does. Again, the same must hold true for packages. When the AI is being compiled prior to simming a game, it must use those IDs to create the final set of instructions for the sim to use.

Originally posted by IdRatherFlyFish
One thing I'm careful to do is rename the packages/AI's so that MY packages/AIs do not have the same name as the TEAM packages/AI's.

I see this in bugs fairly often -- the sim called the "wrong" play because the names of the packages/ais were the same and the coordinator got confused as to which was the actual one used (or should be used).

Whodey - hit me up with a GM invite if you'd like for me to steal .. errr.. look at your AI

Peace,

Fish

Will do.....have to wait for Zia to log in though so that might be awhile.

Hey...there's a suggestion.....let GM's give AI access to mods

Originally posted by whodey08
Here is my situation....any help appreciated:

I have MY AI which I copied to the team AI for the Canucklehead Brigade team and also copied MY AI to the team AI for Yukon Huskies.

I have MY Packages which I copied to TEAM Packages for both of the above mentioned teams.

So I have TEAM AI set as active default for both teams. I assume that it will use the packages from the Team Packages. However....I changed a bunch of the plays in the Team Packages for Canucklehead Brigade yet it went off the plays that I had in My Packages for our regular season game today and we lost.

I am so confused right now







The AI that you copied to the Team still points to Your Packages. When you copy the packages to the team, it creates a copy, with a completely different package ID number. In order for the Team AI to use those Team packages you just created, you will need to go back into the Team AI and change all of the Your Packages to the Team Packages. This can be difficult since the Select Package interface does not differentiate between Team Packages or Your Packages. It lumps them all together. Thus, you may want to rename the packages to include the team name, as Fish mentions above.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2140795

Prime example......game link above shows our LOL Rookie team trying to kick 30, 40, 50+ yd FG's. TEAM AI says 20 yds for FG attempts. MY AI has 55 yds as FG attempts.

This tells me it was running off MY AI despite having TEAM AI set as active default.

Originally posted by Plankton
The AI that you copied to the Team still points to Your Packages. When you copy the packages to the team, it creates a copy, with a completely different package ID number. In order for the Team AI to use those Team packages you just created, you will need to go back into the Team AI and change all of the Your Packages to the Team Packages. This can be difficult since the Select Package interface does not differentiate between Team Packages or Your Packages. It lumps them all together. Thus, you may want to rename the packages to include the team name, as Fish mentions above.

Son of a fucking bitch.....that sucks!!!!!

Getting closer and closer to being done with OC and DC as its just not worth it anymore

Originally posted by whodey08
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2140795

Prime example......game link above shows our LOL Rookie team trying to kick 30, 40, 50+ yd FG's. TEAM AI says 20 yds for FG attempts. MY AI has 55 yds as FG attempts.

This tells me it was running off MY AI despite having TEAM AI set as active default.

That's a different issue tho, since the play is the same (FG) and the change is the condition upon which it would kick the FG.

<-------waves the white towel.