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voegma
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Defenders are choosing very poor pathing to pursue the ball carrier. Seems to happen more often on pitch plays. Players tend to run into the line instead of going laterally. Pathing should be adjusted or some type of risk calculation needs to be made to decide what the best pursuit angle is.

Reason why this hurts so much on pitch plays is the 3-4 is designed to really help shut down outside runs, yet it can't due to really poor pathing.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146369&pbp_id=3011227 Both ILBs run into the line when ball carrier is already well past them. They should pursue laterally.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146369&pbp_id=3011357 Both ILBs run into blockers instead of pursuing on a more lateral line to cut the runner off.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146369&pbp_id=3014267 Both ILBs run into the line again instead of pursuit lateral.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146369&pbp_id=3014292 again both ILBs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146369&pbp_id=3014874 again

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146369&pbp_id=3015379 again

Edited by voegma on Aug 23, 2012 07:23:01
 
RyanCane26
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+1
 
RayRay99
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Dr. E
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IMHO that this issue is caused by how the Dots are set up in the play.
 
SG✬21
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Originally posted by Dr. E
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IMHO that this issue is caused by how the Dots are set up in the play.


Well they are set up but they ultimately choose the path to take to the HB.

Now if you had a choice would you choose the route through blockers or slightly around them to stop the HB?

+1 to the OP
 
Dr. E
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Originally posted by SG✬21
Well they are set up but they ultimately choose the path to take to the HB.

Now if you had a choice would you choose the route through blockers or slightly around them to stop the HB?

+1 to the OP


The point is, there is a way to prevent them from responding like that.
 
snakes22
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They probably choose an initial path to intercept the ball carrier but its hard to account for the blockers and where they will be so as they get closer and come across a potential blocker they have to rework their path around the blocker and then recalculate a path to ball carrier. Imagine if it were just the HB and LB pursuing and no one else, they would probably path fairly well.

Maybe need to add more of a containment pathing to keep the HB inside and then pursue downfield.

Tough to get it right for all situations, I think as it is now is probably best. Just line up ur dots better knowing how it works
Edited by snakes22 on Aug 23, 2012 18:20:35
Edited by snakes22 on Aug 23, 2012 18:17:24
 
7steeladonis
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the fact that we have to suggest something like this is not a good sign for a 30 season old game
 
Dr. E
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Ok, I'm in a good mood so I will learn ya. Get contain like this: Put a defender as far outside as possible on passive tactics, the ball carrier will turn in and if you have the LOLB close enough for the FB to pick up on his vision check, then a gap will develop for a different Defender to shoot through. All you have to do is position that Dots starting point far enough back that the TE will first head for the Dot on the outside. Either the outside defender or the one sitting back gets a clean shot on the ball carrier.

Of course, this weakens the D against the inside run and deep pass.
 
voegma
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Originally posted by Dr. E

Of course, this weakens the D against the inside run and deep pass.


which is why I suggested the better pathing option

 
Hook82
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In real football, players know when they are the contain, or force player on a given defensive play. I know this is not real football, but if GLB is going to call their game a "football simulation," then you as a DC should be able to tag a players on each side of the defense as the "contain" players. That would allow those players to take an outside/in path to the ball and keep themselves outside of blocks to keep their contain. (CBs, 4-3 DEs, SSs in a roll cover 3)

With that said, players know when they have help on the outside and should run an inside/out path to the ball. (ILBs, DTs, 3-4 DEs, SS in cover 2/4, FS in cover 2/3)
 
Hook82
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Originally posted by Dr. E
The point is, there is a way to prevent them from responding like that.


Would be better if you could move LBs outside further.
 


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