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TL;DR version below; synopsis: MVP coding for punters is dumb, it is basically the TOTAL YARDAGE for a Punter. This could potentially work for QB's, but the real test of a Punter should be a combination of:

Yards/Punt
Coffin Corner kicks
Within the 20 yard line
Within the 10 yard line
Within the 5 yard line


And potentially even mixing yards/return in to this (this would mean a punter gets good hang time and makes returners fair catch) - alternatively, add a 'hang time' category and rank with this as well

The current system is horribly flawed.

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I didnt know where else to put this...but my P ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2346828 )currently leads South America Pro in Punting Yard Average ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/stats.pl?season=29&league_id=15&conference_id=0&stat=kicking&sort=punt_yards/punts&playoffs=0&stat_type=raw ). My P also gets a punt within the 20 yard line 1 out of every 2 kicks. A P that is ranked for 4th in the MVP in the same conference gets a P within the 20 1 out of every 4 punts and has 7 yards less per punt. Its this guy: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2422301 .

Is this an issue with the MVP coding? I dont get how a P that has better STATS on a per capita basis isnt even close to the runnings for anything in terms of K/P MVP.

Here are current Punters in the MVP runnings for the guys in his same conference:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2422301
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2253614
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2160915

They all have less stats, except for number of times punted, which are generally 30 or way more punts. The number of punts and total yards should never enter the MVP formula, there are MANY other ways of gauging the success of a punter...the number of punts only shows that you have a crappy offense, it tells NOTHING about the punter

I am pretty sure MVP is based on yards/punt not total yards.

But the other factors should play a part as well.
Total yards is easy. Find a really crappy team.

+1

Isn't it scaled to compensate for blowout games as well?

When 2 players, 2 different teams, lead the league in FFs and are STOPs with all of their plays being on STs, and neither one are even on the board in the top 10 for STs MVP (and there are complete scrub return men that are)......... then that is something worth looking at fixing. A punter? not so much......

MVP is a joke.

Originally posted by Dub J
MVP is a joke.

this^

Originally posted by RiverRat2
I am pretty sure MVP is based on yards/punt not total yards.
+1

the only one of my players that gets any stats is my punter, and from what i've seen over the seasons, its all about the adjusted total yards. thats why a punter on a terrible team that consistantly gets beat badly wont be in the mvp race because his yards will get greatly adjusted downward.

Originally posted by Dub J
MVP is a joke.

and this. a punter/kicker mvp sounded good in theory, but what team really wants 1 of their 3 endorsements to be on the punter? if you really want to see something FUBAR, just look at the top 300 in the punter HOF, and look at all the crappy career averages and lack of seasonal awards for the "top" punters. just typical bort disrespect for ST.

Yep, blowout adjusted stats just killed a silly little exploit and created an even worse exploit.

punters need love and blowjobs.

Originally posted by Alky
punters need love and blowjobs.




http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1653141 says eat moar chik'n

It's not about the player being any good. It's about being in the right league on the right team.

Originally posted by RiverRat2
I am pretty sure MVP is based on yards/punt not total yards.

But the other factors should play a part as well.
Total yards is easy. Find a really crappy team.

+1

this

and this.....

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
a punter/kicker mvp sounded good in theory, but what team really wants 1 of their 3 endorsements to be on the punter? if you really want to see something FUBAR, just look at the top 300 in the punter HOF, and look at all the crappy career averages and lack of seasonal awards for the "top" punters. just typical bort disrespect for ST.

STs are like Bort's red-headed step-child

Originally posted by spartan822
STs are like Bort's red-headed step-child

Maybe so, but bad logic for MVP creation in this manner is still bad logic.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
and this. a punter/kicker mvp sounded good in theory, but what team really wants 1 of their 3 endorsements to be on the punter? if you really want to see something FUBAR, just look at the top 300 in the punter HOF, and look at all the crappy career averages and lack of seasonal awards for the "top" punters. just typical bort disrespect for ST.

Really...? That just means you should make a ST MVP equipment award to bypass this problem. Again, just another hiccup that needs to be worked out and corrected, so in addition to fixing the MVP coding, make a ST equipment piece or something?

Originally posted by We_Rule
When 2 players, 2 different teams, lead the league in FFs and are STOPs with all of their plays being on STs, and neither one are even on the board in the top 10 for STs MVP (and there are complete scrub return men that are)......... then that is something worth looking at fixing. A punter? not so much......

+1 I agree with this and the OP. Head Hunting Gunners on Coverage Units and Punters do get snubbed in the ST's MVP Race IMO. Pancaking LS's do too for that matter.