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I really like to run the 5-2 Base Defense and I'm not sure why we don't have it yet? It's either Goalline normal / small or a 4-4 Base in Short Yardage situations. If your not helping the suggestion, please keep your smart mouth comments to yourself!! I get tired of trying to make a suggestion and there's always those few Agents that have to get in there and get slick at the mouth. Either you give it a +1 or you give it a -1....No need to try and be funny and just upset Agents, That's counter productive to what the suggestion Forum is for. The Game won't get better when the Trolling Agents discourage anyone from trying to express an idea to make the Game better in the Forums. Thanks

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the 4-2-5 and the 3-3-5 should b as well maybe even the 2-4-5

+1

this was raised a few seasons or so ago, and stated it is NGTH any time soon.

anyways, +1

Originally posted by Ishamw
+1
the 4-2-5 and the 3-3-5 should b as well maybe even the 2-4-5

All needs to happen.

+1

Originally posted by Bane
this was raised a few seasons or so ago, and stated it is NGTH any time soon.

anyways, +1

Yup, I brought it up back when the had the DC formation builder come out, then again when it was nerf'd. Long over due (and might help balance out the Oline/Dline imbalance).

Originally posted by Ishamw
+1
the 4-2-5 and the 3-3-5 should b as well maybe even the 2-4-5

+1 to the OP because I'd love to see an extra lineman in some situations but both Nickel (4-2-5) and 3-3-5 Nickel are already possible.

I'd also like to see some true counters to the I-form Big formation where we can pick a 5-3-3 with 1 CB a FS and a SS or a 4-4-3 with the same secondary set up.

Originally posted by Ishamw
+1
the 4-2-5 and the 3-3-5 should b as well maybe even the 2-4-5

Really 4-2-5 and 3-3-5 have been here for a long time already. I would like to see the 2-4-5 but I doubt that it will happen.

+1 to OP

I have nothing against the 5-2, but I'm concerned about adding more complications to the line interactions when there have been so many issues with it in the past. Plus, you can still do this: http://oi50.tinypic.com/iz8bns.jpg

I would like to see a 2-4-5. Didn't even think of the Patriots Lineup,lol.

Originally posted by TruthHammer
I have nothing against the 5-2, but I'm concerned about adding more complications to the line interactions when there have been so many issues with it in the past. Plus, you can still do this: http://oi50.tinypic.com/iz8bns.jpg

I've been doing that and placing a Bandit End (Pass Rushing Specialist) @ LOLB1 but you still don't get the LDE over the RG / RT Gap even when the D-Line is Shifted Weak. I also have used 2 DT's at ILB from the 3-4 but it's not the same. That and you have the Vision Penalty (Which no one will say how much so I make sure the BDE has good Vision) from playing a DE at LB. And about your concerns with the complications to Line interactions...What about when the Offense comes out in a 2 TE Set and has 2 OL's at the TE Positions? You have 7 OL's against a undersized D-Line and that's not fair by any means.

Originally posted by TruthHammer
I have nothing against the 5-2, but I'm concerned about adding more complications to the line interactions when there have been so many issues with it in the past. Plus, you can still do this: http://oi50.tinypic.com/iz8bns.jpg

I use a power LB to fake a few 5-2 set ups but because of the limitations on where you can shift it creates really bad gaps that wouldn't be a problem if I could use an additional interior lineman instead. Since LBs are much lighter than DEs or DTs they aren't really ideal especially if I want to spread the line. Even a power LB is going to get destroyed by an NT if I line him up over him.

I understand that adding some more defensive formations might cause some problems initially but it would actually help interactions in the long term since we'd get to see some more common-sense set-ups. The interactions were hardly perfect when they added the 4 new offensive formations, adding those without giving the D the ability to defend them with personnel better suited to the new formations seems unbalanced.

As an OC I love the new two TE sets but having to use a 4-3 to defend it doesn't make as much sense as trotting out an extra big boy to deal with situations where 2 blockers are in. The Spread formations is great as an OC but it would be nice to be able to go with a 2-4-5 on D since the offense is forcing matchups where I potentially would need to defend two tackle breaking WRs and two speed WRs and I'd prefer a LB to a d-lineman to handle the power archetypes.

The biggest one for me would be the Big I. I hate having to keep an extra CB on the field when the offense only uses 1 WR. I'd much rather have an extra strong safety or linebacker against that formation.

Originally posted by sehorn31
I really like to run the 5-2 Base Defense and I'm not sure why we don't have it yet? It's either Goalline normal / small or a 4-4 Base in Short Yardage situations. If your not helping the suggestion, please keep your smart mouth comments to yourself!! I get tired of trying to make a suggestion and there's always those few Agents that have to get in there and get slick at the mouth. Either you give it a +1 or you give it a -1....No need to try and be funny and just upset Agents, That's counter productive to what the suggestion Forum is for. The Game won't get better when the Trolling Agents discourage anyone from trying to express an idea to make the Game better in the Forums. Thanks



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Originally posted by TruthHammer
I have nothing against the 5-2, but I'm concerned about adding more complications to the line interactions when there have been so many issues with it in the past. Plus, you can still do this: http://oi50.tinypic.com/iz8bns.jpg

Jay, You know like I know, A Blocking TE can seal the Edge against a Pass Rushing DE at the LOLB Spot...Much less if they have an actual OL there. Like merenoise said, they came out with a Single Back Big, Big I, Trips, and a Run-N-Shoot for the Offense and they can't even give the Defense a 5-2? WTF??? Talk about unbalanced!! Teams can go with a Power Back from the Run-N-Shoot and plow up the Middle for 3-4 Yd gains all day long. You can try to bring a SS down in the Box but you'll get mostly Man-to-Man Coverage on the WR's and we all know that's it's easier to get 4 Starting caliber WR's than it is to get 4 Shutdown Corners or they can put a Rec. TE in the 4th WR Slot and he will out run any S you can put there. I don't see much Balance there?