Warrior General Games

OL just received several new VA's that counter DL ones, great as it increased balance between the OL and DL. How about a VA that counters Cut Blocks?

Call it something simple like, Anti-Cut Block.

Every level of this wonderfully kickass user-recommended VA gives a 5% bonus to avoiding cut blocks.

Have each level add a flat bonus to the roll.

EDIT:

Originally posted by Ken1
+1 if it's "Hurdle The Block" with a +2.5%/level (37.5% if maxed) bonus to avoiding Cut Blocks and with a Jumping of 40 prerequisite. (I added a bit, from 2% to 2.5%, because of the prerequisite).

+1

I am still of the opinion that Never Give Up might be useful against cut blocks, but it's really not the best option. I agree there should be a direct counter as CB is becoming more and more prevalent.

I am generally all for a Ying Yang approach to VAs, I am not sure that this one should have one.

Because, really, what would it be?

If some 300 pound guy is diving at your legs, you're likely going down.

The whole point of Cut Blocking is that its fairly sure fired.

AND it has an internal offsetting cost, as said 300 pounder ain't getting up again till the whistle is blown.

Only thing that would make sense in offsetting it would be higher jumping and agility, something that you can simply put in your build and which it wouldn't make much sense to have an ability to mimic with a VA unless you had the attributes. A 300 lb Dlinemen shouldnt be hopping around based on a VA alone.

That all said, if they had a Hurdle like VA that allowed some boost to avoiding Cut Block that was highly dependent upon the level of Jumping attribute then I suppose that would be okay.

Cut Block is an SA, and it has a counter: Balance. No need for another VA.

Originally posted by CDZYO
Cut Block is an SA, and it has a counter: Balance. No need for another VA.

If you can prove via a bort quote that balance works, sure. Otherwise I read the descriptions as cut blocking is different than a pancake, therefore Balance does not fire as it only fires if your dot fails to avoid a reverse or regular pancake. We know that cut block's roll occurs after a blocker loses the block/break block roll, as an insurance policy for the OL.

As for yellow's thoughts, then put am attribute requirement on the VA. The three main attributes to avoid cut blocks include Agility, Vision, and Jumping.

+1

+1 to OP

according to bort the only things to combat a cut block is more strength and Agility, which makes no facking sense because every D-line I know has plenty of both.

Below is what Balance says.



All Players After being pancaked by an opposing player, the Balance ability gives this player a chance to keep his footing and avoid falling down. He will only stumble backward a bit instead. This works for both blockers and players being blocked.

This skill can be very important if this player is not very strong or gets knocked down a lot.

Additional Levels: Increases the chance of this player keeping his balance and not falling down.

so in theory Balance would work against pancakes, and hopefully cut blocks. But yeah we need a quote from bort to confirm. have to wait til the next Q&A I guess

Originally posted by whodey08


Do you have any idea how many more important issues we will have before the next Q&A session


lol yeah I know. I sent a pm to catch to see of he can add that in for the ones he is asking bort now. But I doubt it.

Thanks Rob for asking.

Originally posted by Robbnva
according to bort the only things to combat a cut block is more strength and Agility, which makes no facking sense because every D-line I know has plenty of both.



This.

Makes no sense because Cuts happen when the D-line wins the break block roll (strength/agility being the major attributes) and yet they can't avoid cut blocks

+1

-1 to the OP's suggestion as made. 5%/level (75% when maxed) is WAY too high for a VA that cancels out an SA. Maybe 2%/level (30% when maxed), but no higher than that.

Originally posted by Ken1
-1 to the OP's suggestion as made. 5%/level (75% when maxed) is WAY too high for a VA that cancels out an SA. Maybe 2%/level (30% when maxed), but no higher than that.

That is fine. I just tossed out a number for s&g's. I also thought about suggesting the bonus would only increase say agility's or jumping's effect during the avoid cut block roll. Heck, even a VA that would give a chance to reroll a failed avoid cut block roll.

Originally posted by timthorn
That is fine. I just tossed out a number for s&g's. I also thought about suggesting the bonus would only increase say agility's or jumping's effect during the avoid cut block roll. Heck, even a VA that would give a chance to reroll a failed avoid cut block roll.

+1 if it's "Hurdle The Block" with a +2.5%/level (37.5% if maxed) bonus to avoiding Cut Blocks and with a Jumping of 40 prerequisite. (I added a bit, from 2% to 2.5%, because of the prerequisite).