For defensive players, gives a +3% bonus to pass deflections on any pass over 20 yards.
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SikoraP13 DTD
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This is was 3rd down stopper is for I was under the impression, to help the long throws which usually accompany 3rd down. This combined w/ 3ds, would make a 3rd and long impossible.
Therefore, -1
Therefore, -1
gndzylak
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Originally posted by SikoraP13 DTD
This is was 3rd down stopper is for I was under the impression, to help the long throws which usually accompany 3rd down. This combined w/ 3ds, would make a 3rd and long impossible.
Therefore, -1
Since stacking can only go to 75% anyway, I would say a 75% chance of a PD on a 3rd and 20+ is about right.
This is was 3rd down stopper is for I was under the impression, to help the long throws which usually accompany 3rd down. This combined w/ 3ds, would make a 3rd and long impossible.
Therefore, -1
Since stacking can only go to 75% anyway, I would say a 75% chance of a PD on a 3rd and 20+ is about right.
Ken1
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-1. Too powerful, and fixing a "problem" DCs could fix themselves. Teams don't seem to defend long passes much, with Cover 2 Man and the like. When they leave guys one on one deep, they should get burned (and finally do).
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Originally posted by gndzylak
For defensive players, gives a +3% bonus to pass deflections on any pass over 20 yards.
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For defensive players, gives a +3% bonus to pass deflections on any pass over 20 yards.
+1
merenoise
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Originally posted by Ken1
-1. Too powerful, and fixing a "problem" DCs could fix themselves. Teams don't seem to defend long passes much, with Cover 2 Man and the like. When they leave guys one on one deep, they should get burned (and finally do).
Originally posted by gndzylak
Originally posted by SikoraP13 DTD
This is was 3rd down stopper is for I was under the impression, to help the long throws which usually accompany 3rd down. This combined w/ 3ds, would make a 3rd and long impossible.
Therefore, -1
Since stacking can only go to 75% anyway, I would say a 75% chance of a PD on a 3rd and 20+ is about right.
Since Ken1 is all about making up stats I thought I'd head this one off at the pass. According to the Washington Post the NFL's top 36 passers last season had a 28% completion rating on passes on 3rd and 8 or more:
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=&rank=047&year=
569 completions on 2008 attempts which lines up pretty nicely with gndzylak's suggestion that 75% chance to PD. If anything that is too little since the percentage goes way down once you take it to 15+ yards much less 20+ yards.
-1. Too powerful, and fixing a "problem" DCs could fix themselves. Teams don't seem to defend long passes much, with Cover 2 Man and the like. When they leave guys one on one deep, they should get burned (and finally do).
Originally posted by gndzylak
Originally posted by SikoraP13 DTD
This is was 3rd down stopper is for I was under the impression, to help the long throws which usually accompany 3rd down. This combined w/ 3ds, would make a 3rd and long impossible.
Therefore, -1
Since stacking can only go to 75% anyway, I would say a 75% chance of a PD on a 3rd and 20+ is about right.
Since Ken1 is all about making up stats I thought I'd head this one off at the pass. According to the Washington Post the NFL's top 36 passers last season had a 28% completion rating on passes on 3rd and 8 or more:
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=&rank=047&year=
569 completions on 2008 attempts which lines up pretty nicely with gndzylak's suggestion that 75% chance to PD. If anything that is too little since the percentage goes way down once you take it to 15+ yards much less 20+ yards.
Ken1
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Mr. Noise is one about trolling me and lying about me. I guess he's never going to stop.
merenoise
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Originally posted by Ken1
Mr. Noise is one about trolling me and lying about me. I guess he's never going to stop.
Are my stats in anyway incorrect?
Mr. Noise is one about trolling me and lying about me. I guess he's never going to stop.
Are my stats in anyway incorrect?
Ken1
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Originally posted by merenoise
Are my stats in anyway incorrect?
You lied about me, not necessarily your stats. It doesn't change that the proposed VA, which I take it you support only because I oppose, would lead to a very low percentage without the DCs even having to try to stop long passes. Just play everyone in the box. One on one is good enough to stop anything deep.
Oh, and the stats are based on the double coverage that almost anyone gets deep, except here where people still cover people one on one more often than in real life.
And you know who suggested the 3rd Down Stopper VA (because 3rd and long was, in fact, too easy to convert)? I did.
Are my stats in anyway incorrect?
You lied about me, not necessarily your stats. It doesn't change that the proposed VA, which I take it you support only because I oppose, would lead to a very low percentage without the DCs even having to try to stop long passes. Just play everyone in the box. One on one is good enough to stop anything deep.
Oh, and the stats are based on the double coverage that almost anyone gets deep, except here where people still cover people one on one more often than in real life.
And you know who suggested the 3rd Down Stopper VA (because 3rd and long was, in fact, too easy to convert)? I did.
Edited by Ken1 on Mar 6, 2012 00:42:16
Edited by Ken1 on Mar 6, 2012 00:40:58
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