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sasquatch226
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Deep threat qb
17 days old, level 13 (effective level 14)

strength: 53
vision: 69 nat 83 with eq
throwing: 62
Confidence: 13
Agility: 11
Confidence: 13
Stamina: 10

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2740183
Edited by sasquatch226 on Jan 14, 2012 19:52:41
 
lucifer_pdx
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Is he the starter? If so then that team must suck.
 
Shrazkil
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Originally posted by sasquatch226
Deep threat qb
17 days old, level 13 (effective level 14)

strength: 53
vision: 69 nat 83 with eq
throwing: 62
Confidence: 13
Agility: 11
Confidence: 13
Stamina: 10

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2740183


Sorry my friend, but you have done too much damage to salvage, hopefully this was your fee player.

rebuild and make sure you do not spend any sp on anything but the first stat you are raising, and bring it all the way to 86.5.
 
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Originally posted by lucifer_pdx
Is he the starter? If so then that team must suck.


Troll much?
 
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Originally posted by lucifer_pdx
Is he the starter? If so then that team must suck.


u sir ( and I am using the term loosely ) are an idiot .
 
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Originally posted by Shrazkil
Sorry my friend, but you have done too much damage to salvage, hopefully this was your fee player.

rebuild and make sure you do not spend any sp on anything but the first stat you are raising, and bring it all the way to 86.5.


Shraz is an excellent builder and his advice is spot on if you wish your Qb to play at the top levels such as World League BUT since your player is more rounded out then players building for those later leagues you can possibly have more short term success for the next few seasons . So depending on your goals in playing the game you can either retire and rebuild with more of a end game player build strategy or build a more rounded player with this one and hope to succeed much sooner knowing that your player will hit a wall .

Either way good luck and have fun and ignore the idiots .
 
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Originally posted by sasquatch226
Deep threat qb
17 days old, level 13 (effective level 14)

strength: 53
vision: 69 nat 83 with eq
throwing: 62
Confidence: 13
Agility: 11
Confidence: 13
Stamina: 10

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2740183


opps my bad read wrong?

my main issue is why is his EQ in vision?
for a deep passer, throw or possibly strength right?
i don't see why u chose vis tbh,
maybe for a pocket guy but not for a deep pass arche
Edited by darncat on Jan 15, 2012 11:15:41
 
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Originally posted by zamtik
Shraz is an excellent builder and his advice is spot on if you wish your Qb to play at the top levels such as World League BUT since your player is more rounded out then players building for those later leagues you can possibly have more short term success for the next few seasons . So depending on your goals in playing the game you can either retire and rebuild with more of a end game player build strategy or build a more rounded player with this one and hope to succeed much sooner knowing that your player will hit a wall .

Either way good luck and have fun and ignore the idiots .


for all that big talk, i see little to no results

if the guy is such an incredible builder, then why don't his QBs have a single good season between them?
i guess if your strategy is to spend thousands and wait 2 years for your players to be useful at all,
just to get a couple of halfway decent seasons in EEPL at the end of his career, then be sure to follow him.

however, i do think that many of GLB players are comin from this perspective-
to have success today while at the same time building for tomorrow.
i may be wrong, but i don't think the avg GLB player can afford a 100 players, and multiple teams.
many GLBers don't have the luxury of a team to placehold their SSBs for 10 seasons until they are decent.

as for Tif da Cat (cuz i know you idiots will start your flames here)
when i created her i was head coach of a team from friends i only knew from GLB.
they had a full boosted team and expected to win, then and their. not only my players PT,
by my HC gig was depending on us winning games and being successful.
i didnt have the luxury to SSB my player and wait 2 years.
she had to be the best at that time and to continue to be so for us to win.
without her the original Generals, (and now the new Feline Generals) wouldn't have done nearly so well.

and i know where the haters will attack next, blah blah blah
she had 2 lousy seasons in her whole career that proves me wrong huh?
cmon, in my running QBs terrible season she had a better passer rating and % then yr passing QB does in a good year
twice- becuz we had been so successful, we ended up being severely underleveled to start a season.
bcuz of this the WHOLE TEAM HAD NO CHANCE. nobody did well. O-line getting revCaked 100 to 1.
at least 3 TIMES A GAME she had -3.5 yrd rushes, where the RDE tackled her BEFORE SHE COULD HAND OFF

of course, thats becuz i didn't SSB my QB. so the haters want u to believe.
but you won't, bcuz it isnt true.

GLB is set up so that no matter how good you are, u CAN'T DOMINATE EVERY SEASON NO MATTER WHAT
this is the basic checks and balance of promotion system, but these SSB idiots are to DAMN DUMB TO GET IT.
but overall, you can make a player who does well and is fun to play... or not
don't let these SSB idiots tell you how to do it. don't let them tell you its only about WL.
shoot by the time you get to WL the world may have ended? wtf knows?!?
all i know is in GLB like life you try to to the best you can today, while still building for the future.

if you do that, you will always be a winner.

and, i haven't seen much of the QB in question,
but from the stats u displayed here, i think you can do fine,
id just recommend you move that EQ and start to focus on throw or strength more than vis
(and i could be wrong with this, but i think w/ vision u start to get 'diminishing returns' earlier than some other stats)
 
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Originally posted by darncat
for all that big talk, i see little to no results

if the guy is such an incredible builder, then why don't his QBs have a single good season between them?
i guess if your strategy is to spend thousands and wait 2 years for your players to be useful at all,
just to get a couple of halfway decent seasons in EEPL at the end of his career, then be sure to follow him.

however, i do think that many of GLB players are comin from this perspective-
to have success today while at the same time building for tomorrow.
i may be wrong, but i don't think the avg GLB player can afford a 100 players, and multiple teams.
many GLBers don't have the luxury of a team to placehold their SSBs for 10 seasons until they are decent.

as for Tif da Cat (cuz i know you idiots will start your flames here)
when i created her i was head coach of a team from friends i only knew from GLB.
they had a full boosted team and expected to win, then and their. not only my players PT,
by my HC gig was depending on us winning games and being successful.
i didnt have the luxury to SSB my player and wait 2 years.
she had to be the best at that time and to continue to be so for us to win.
without her the original Generals, (and now the new Feline Generals) wouldn't have done nearly so well.

and i know where the haters will attack next, blah blah blah
she had 2 lousy seasons in her whole career that proves me wrong huh?
cmon, in my running QBs terrible season she had a better passer rating and % then yr passing QB does in a good year
twice- becuz we had been so successful, we ended up being severely underleveled to start a season.
bcuz of this the WHOLE TEAM HAD NO CHANCE. nobody did well. O-line getting revCaked 100 to 1.
at least 3 TIMES A GAME she had -3.5 yrd rushes, where the RDE tackled her BEFORE SHE COULD HAND OFF

of course, thats becuz i didn't SSB my QB. so the haters want u to believe.
but you won't, bcuz it isnt true.

GLB is set up so that no matter how good you are, u CAN'T DOMINATE EVERY SEASON NO MATTER WHAT
this is the basic checks and balance of promotion system, but these SSB idiots are to DAMN DUMB TO GET IT.
but overall, you can make a player who does well and is fun to play... or not
don't let these SSB idiots tell you how to do it. don't let them tell you its only about WL.
shoot by the time you get to WL the world may have ended? wtf knows?!?
all i know is in GLB like life you try to to the best you can today, while still building for the future.

if you do that, you will always be a winner.

and, i haven't seen much of the QB in question,
but from the stats u displayed here, i think you can do fine,
id just recommend you move that EQ and start to focus on throw or strength more than vis
(and i could be wrong with this, but i think w/ vision u start to get 'diminishing returns' earlier than some other stats)


LOL sigh.... hows those ring counts coming. Darncat, you are rather clueless , building good players is not about stats (and if you did the research on them you would see that for the leagues they played in growing up, they were actually ranked very high, usually 1-7 in their position). If you are playing in elite leagues against elite competition, then your stats are gonna be more grounded. Effective Level is gonna be the benchmark to go on. Further, of my 6 oldest dots , 5 of them are experimental builds , testing one thing or another.

The moment your QB met the slightest competition in season 25 , it had less then 800 yards COMBINED. Your builds are rather attrocious , and mine are geared towards end game.
 
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If you would like to put up ..or shut up.. just open your crappy build , and compair it to mine. Stats are what matters, because if you are claiming all this success, then it is only reasonable to assume, my QB with better stats in almost every area, would have even better stats in your slum leagues.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2144660
 
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Originally posted by zamtik

Originally posted by lucifer_pdx
Is he the starter? If so then that team must suck.

u sir ( and I am using the term loosely ) are an idiot .


Gee, his team does suck.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=53

Here's a QB that's built similarly to yours. He's a QB that we cut after the first season, season 25. As you can see his stats are already coming down in season 26. He's still decent, and when I cut him I thanked him for boosting early so that I could slow build my QB. My QB is already even with him, but that didn't keep him from being quite upset over being cut. I can't blame him for that, but my slow build QB will age much better than his QB. Since they're pretty even this season my QB is the one to keep. Your QB will face a similar problem next season.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2541087
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2532181

I love how you call me an idiot and then say that Shrazkil is an excellent builder. I learned most of what I know from Shraz (thanks again for all the help, BTW). I'm also managing pretty well as the OC and DC of a team, even though it is just in casual. So yeah, you calling me an idiot really matters to me.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=833

As for me being a troll, that one might be right. I'm on pretty much everyday either getting ready for the next game or handing out game balls for the previous game. I also like to check the QB forums, mostly because the O-line forums are usually dead. QB forums are so much more interesting, especially with darncat defending Tif all the time
Edited by lucifer_pdx on Jan 15, 2012 21:30:23
 
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Originally posted by lucifer_pdx
Gee, his team does suck.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=53

Here's a QB that's built similarly to yours. He's a QB that we cut after the first season, season 25. As you can see his stats are already coming down in season 26. He's still decent, and when I cut him I thanked him for boosting early so that I could slow build my QB. My QB is already even with him, but that didn't keep him from being quite upset over being cut. I can't blame him for that, but my slow build QB will age much better than his QB. Since they're pretty even this season my QB is the one to keep. Your QB will face a similar problem next season.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2541087
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2532181

I love how you call me an idiot and then say that Shrazkil is an excellent builder. I learned most of what I know from Shraz (thanks again for all the help, BTW). I'm also managing pretty well as the OC and DC of a team, even though it is just in casual. So yeah, you calling me an idiot really matters to me.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=833

As for me being a troll, that one might be right. I'm on pretty much everyday either getting ready for the next game or handing out game balls for the previous game. I also like to check the QB forums, mostly because the O-line forums are usually dead. QB forums are so much more interesting, especially with darncat defending Tif all the time


I think zamtik is saying that because we have been on the same team before, and he has seen most of my builds and VPB spec's. Keep building good dots lucifer, you'll get a reputation, just remember there are alot of newer players who don't have a knack for building yet (like darncat) , so try not to be so critical..even if it may be accurate.
 
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Originally posted by Shrazkil
If you would like to put up ..or shut up.. just open your crappy build , and compair it to mine. Stats are what matters, because if you are claiming all this success, then it is only reasonable to assume, my QB with better stats in almost every area, would have even better stats in your slum leagues.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2144660


i will post my build here but im not gonna open it... but ill post i here
as soon as i get back from the museum, gotta take my GF its free museum day for MLK day!

btw yr QB looks good always have, i bet mine is a little stronger passer tbh
and bullet runs better w/ the AEQ spin, tif is more of a crafty w/ juke aeq

and what i was saying was not that i made the best player... what i was tryin to say
was that i made her to do good every step of the way, and she has done that to my satisfaction.
i wasnt making her just for end build like many ppl seem to. but i still think her end build is up thier w/ the best.
 
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Originally posted by darncat
i will post my build here but im not gonna open it... but ill post i here
as soon as i get back from the museum, gotta take my GF its free museum day for MLK day!

btw yr QB looks good always have, i bet mine is a little stronger passer tbh
and bullet runs better w/ the AEQ spin, tif is more of a crafty w/ juke aeq

and what i was saying was not that i made the best player... what i was tryin to say
was that i made her to do good every step of the way, and she has done that to my satisfaction.
i wasnt making her just for end build like many ppl seem to. but i still think her end build is up thier w/ the best.


no...open it...anyone can fake numbers, sack up or shut up.

Most builds arent made JUST for WL, but alot of people will wait to round out important things. Scramblers are onna those builds that when done for effective EL , dont rush great till very late. My point was simply to show that stats are not based on builds or attributes, but largely circumstance of level of competition and strength of team around you and your co-ordinators.
 
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Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength: 61.63 Blocking: 6
Speed: 138.63 (+47) Tackling: 8
Agility: 91.62 Throwing: 95.62 (+5)
Jumping: 28 Catching: 8
Stamina: 21 Carrying: 53.63
Vision: 84.62 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 37.63 Punting: 8

Speed +2.75
Throwing +6.8
QR chance +75%
Spin chance +30%
Hurdle chance +30%
Juke chance +30%
Pass quality +18%

Pocket Passer Scrambler Abilities
PP 2 OTR 3
TS 1 DP 3
PF 2 QC 7
TdS 1 SA 1
FG 1 Dm 1

Additional Abilities
Spin 4
Hurdle 2
Juke 11

Veteran Abilities
TS 10
Sl 15
LA 15
QF 15
QR 15
SYM 5

your guy is better rounded... i probably should use my 5 remaining boosts to round out
however i kinda want to bump spin and carry up becuz her spin doesn't fire as often as i'd like...
however her juke can be quite devastating which is really her strong suit.
the QR and pass% i think helps her intermediate throwing. she doesn't attempt many long passes,
she is surprisingly effective when she does though since its always single coverage when she tries it.
throwing into dbl coverage she will have no success at all. the key for her has always been-
take advantage of zone or single coverage when the D plays run, or run unchecked when the D is double covering guys.
since i have always been the coach and OC, its usually on me to try and get the right plays in.
 
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