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Just as the title says. I have proof it needs to be updated. There have been several threads locked citing NGTH in reference to the list. Now, based on pallows official forum rules thread: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1990868, you are supposed to read the NGTH and check epic suggestions thread before you post your suggestion. However, many of the threads that are linked below are locked citing the NGTH, but none of the suggestions OP's are on the NGTH.

Here is the NGTH list link: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1470434

and for you assholes to lazy to click a link here it is:

Never Going to Happen also known as NGTH

- Private Forum Owners being able to see who reported threads from their PF.: Catch said it would be a disincentive to reporting.

CEQ free for free players: Catch said no, verified before locking this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4708193&page=1#43244789

Flex restructure in any way (buying free players, paying set amount per month, etc) they like the flex structure as it is

Being able to own D-League teams Catch said no

Stamina added to all archetypes Catch said here not changing archetypes or ALGs http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4725092&page=1#43404782

More than one free player at a time if user doesn't want to make just one 300 fp player: breakdown to 1 200 and 1 100 fp player for free Catch said free player is to allow people to make ONE player for free as per announcement that ONE player slot will reopen upon retirement of that ONE player

Limit number of seasons players can play for Dleague Catch said not limiting choices of where people want to put their players

Getting rid of Dleagues Catch said not limiting choices of where people want to put their players

Remaining 30% unretired flex coming back as reward points Catch said no

Having someone review suggestions prior to posting Catch said no

Boosting for peewee with new free player change Catch said not changing peewee

Multi language for the site, Catch said wouldn't happen

-Betting (ruins the game's economy, borders on illegal if FP are involved)

-Trading/transferring your player to another user for FPs, another player, or real money (bad to create an underground economy of these things, best to build your own player)

-Transferring flex points to other users (see Flex Points in contracts)

-Buying inactive players (the people might come back!)

-Signing players below the minimum salaries (look up minimum in the dictionary )

-Flex Points in contracts (ruined Cyberdunk)

-Flex Point rewards for performing well (No asking for free FP, would just encourage people to move down leagues for easy wins)

-Only people who buy FPs can post in forums (public forums are free, period)

-Owners/GMs control players’ training/individual tactics (it's the only things players control on a daily basis, if you want them changed, talk to them)

-XP based on game performance (not number of plays) either partially or fully (leads to people just demanding stats, bad for the game)

-XP for playoff games (Already enough rewards for making the playoffs)

-XP in the off-season (This is a "sometimes going to happen, but you don't need to suggest it. The off-season is when Bort updates the servers, so sometimes there needs to be no activity on the game servers to do that. Sometimes, the updates aren't as hard on the servers, especially if they are mostly changes in mechanics or how AI works, so the servers can be up and running and the training can continue. When that is the case, training will happen.)

-XP for friendly scrimmages (Owners with a lot of FP would gain an advantage.)

-Forum for teams wanting to change leagues This is no longer allowed.

-Reorder all of USA based on team record (a team who goes 16-0 in a B league isn't going to do the same in the Pro league)

-Limit GMs to only one team (people can experience GM'ing all the teams they want, no reason to limit it)

-Limit number of players owned by a player on a team (if someone wants to fill their team with their own players, as long as the person is under the roster limit, that's their choice, it doesn't hurt the game at all)

-Ability for players under contract to holdout and not play (we encourage people to work issues out, not to throw a hissy fit)

-Boosting and non-boosting leagues (boosting is part of the game, it's not going to be removed)

-A forum listing moderated users and why they were moderated (private issues, not public info)

-Draft from the D-leagues (see Player draft of any kind)

-Blogging for FPs (the only reason it's done in Cyberdunk is to get more pages with the term and link to the site out there on Google, GLB doesn't want that)

-Buying FPs with In-Game money (basically the same as flex-point contracts, as people will offer/demand those kinds of contracts in order to come to a team)

-Buying in-game money with Flex Points (rich get richer)

-Buying Bonus tokens with Flex Points (rich get richer)

-Player draft of any kind (no drafts of any kind, players are allowed to play with the teams they want, also time zone issues, and a definite no from Bort)

-Eliminating Player Decline/Immortal Players (It's the way to keep things fair so someone who started day 1, season 1 doesn't have the highest level players forever)

-Make your own league (cost-prohibitive, too much to manage for what would be too little gotten out of it by other players, and too many loopholes without the normal league system in place)

-Loans from team to team (too many loopholes on giving out money, how it comes back, etc.)

-Steroids (they're illegal)

-Stay logged in forever (the timeout is in place to help avoid an incident where an account could be taken over maliciously)

-Getting rid of decimal values on skills (you keep getting decimal values from leveling even if you don't from training anymore!)

-Career/Season-Ending Injuries (When they're finally put in, they'll just be skill-reducers for a certain amount of time, the worse the injury, the worse the hit.)

-Post counts (it just adds to idiots posting more nothingness to get their count up)

-Make the game playable like Madden (that's not the kind of game this is, if you want to play Madden, play Madden)

-Boost more times per season (it just creates an even larger rift between paying and non-paying players and causes the cost of the game to stay on pace with everyone else to go up higher to the point where it will price some people out)

-Going back to the old look of this site (Bort said it's impossible to go back, but if you have suggestions on what can be done to improve the current look, he'll probably listen)

-Deleting any forum (Free For All, Trash Talking, etc).

-Controlling players or calling plays in real time (Not everyone is in the same time zone. This is a simulation based game.)

-Images instead of just links in the forums (would cause many problems with people posting inappropriate images, not worth it)

-Sort teams alphabetically (Already does: http://goallineblitz.com/game/search_team.pl and no other pages make sense)

-Be able to switch around Custom Equipment whenever you want (Nope, you have to get a different piece if you want different bonuses)

-There will never be a full-respec option (Bort said here: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1182063&page=77#16090043 )

-Full off-line version (Would completely devalue the game, and Bort would go bankrupt.)

-Volunteer users for Support (Privacy issues, lack of NDA, etc etc)

-Unlimited/Full Seasonal VA Resets (Goes against Bort's vision of the game)

-Un-retire players (Bort said it isn't going to happen)

-"Custom" Zones (Bort said it isn't going to happen because it would cause complications)

-Capping attributes at 100 max (Discussed on the Tester Server, Bort said no)

-Give money back to team for older players (DD said not going to happen due to exploityness here: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3561238&page=1#31203327 )

-Flex stimulus packages or reduced flex prices

-Locked Leagues http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3782895&page=2#33459028 and per Bort

-The ability to select your own majors/minors for automatic level gains (It would create too overpowered a player and cause problems to game balance)

- Total reset of the game - stated in Feb. 16th Q and A that it wouldn't happen.

- DE1/DE2 custom slots http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3782895&page=31#33462571

- Custom slot additions

- Phone support http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3805898&page=3#33740821 Max said here NGTH, live chat being looked at so do not post

-Free Choice on Jersey Numbers (Bort commented on it here: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3196305 )

- Offensive Play Creator (There are too many intricacies and potential problems for anything more in depth.We're working on adding more plays in the near future and potentially more offensive formations down the line. )

-Go back to Level-based leagues

-Add WR and DT to non glamour

Chemistry reset for WL teams

For Your Amusement (yes, these were actually suggested)

-Weapons, seriously, like axes, maces and swords

- Players randomly die or get put into prison.

-A heat seeking football, from the guy who brought you the weapons idea

-Give thread creators the ability to create any response in the thread that they want

-An Epic Fail sub-forum like Epic Suggestions.

-Wear more than 1 piece of equipment in each slot, like 4 shirts at a time (Grossly overpowered)

-TEY5MOD (banned)

-Get more training points every day for being logged into GLB longer than 6 hours

-Forum ban doesn't trigger until you open the alert (then nobody would open the alert)

- J$ for Admin

Might happen at some point in the future

-Arrows/indicators of Cone of Vision or which way a player is looking (Bort said here: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1882676 that it won't happen until there are flash versions of replays. At that point, this will be removed from the list and it'll be a valid suggestion again)

-Iron Man League http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2416697&page=1
Originally posted by Bort
No. I'd agree with Knick: this is not a high priority right now. If I can figure out some changes or workarounds I will revisit it later.

-Transferring/Owning a Playbook between teams
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2502381

- Team offense vs team defense http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1433931
Originally posted by Bort

The sim and stats engine is not able to handle this at the moment. It gets very confused as to who is who when everyone is the same team id and player id's. Doing this would require either some creative thinking or a major reworking of how the sim is written and stats are stored.

-Suggestions for changing archetypes or adding new ones.

What will happen everyday

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Now, that we've all had a chance to read it. Here is just a small sample size of threads locked citing the NGTH list where nothing in the OP is actually on the list.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4833408

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4826728

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4786731

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4826703

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4826299

So, in short, update the NGTH list.
Edited by happylittletrees on Jan 13, 2012 01:22:40
 
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Myd
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Nah.. the NGTH list is like God... doesn't need an specific explanation... doesn't need a specific definition... it just exists in another plane of existence to rule us all using a combination of common sense and blind faith..
 
CDZYO
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"NGTH" isn't citing the NGTH list. That puts the cart before the horse. Do we really need a list of every stupid, stupid suggestion?
 
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Originally posted by CDZYO
"NGTH" isn't citing the NGTH list. That puts the cart before the horse. Do we really need a list of every stupid, stupid suggestion?


of every stupid, stupid suggestion, no. An updated list of the somewhat-reasonable NGTHs wouldbe nice.

+1
 
yello1
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Better yet throw the NGTH list the frak out.

Censoring thought is censorship.
 
hatchman
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Originally posted by CDZYO
"NGTH" isn't citing the NGTH list. That puts the cart before the horse. Do we really need a list of every stupid, stupid suggestion?


-1
Edited by hatchman on Jan 13, 2012 11:49:54
 
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Originally posted by CDZYO
"NGTH" isn't citing the NGTH list. That puts the cart before the horse. Do we really need a list of every stupid, stupid suggestion?


Even if we did, it wouldn't stop people from posting them, same as they do with the current ngth
 
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Yep unfortunately they can't make people read the NGTH list before posting, and they will never be able to keep up with all the NGTH new posts that get thrown up here. And if they did try, the list would be 15 pages long by the end of the month.

Basically if an idea is locked and noted as NGTH, best bet is to not get upset about it. Try to understand why they feel that way, see if your idea can be modified to allow it (unless the entire subject is ruled NGTH like weapons and trading players among accounts and the like).

New people won't understand the NGTH list, not so new people but new suggestions won't read the list, and those of us who read the suggestion forums frequently have a good idea when something is NGTH and often say so. And of course Chysil and other mods in this area will let you know if the idea is NGTH, usually via catch or experience.
 
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Updating the NGTH list is actually on the NGTH list.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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The NGTH list really needs to operate as a list for frequently posted suggestions that are NGTH.

As it stands now, anything w/ moderate steam that may be NGTH is brought to Catch's attention via the mod forum and he makes that determination. There's no way to keep a HUGE listing of everything that is NGTH. The list just becomes unreadable (as it stands now).
 
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
The NGTH list really needs to operate as a list for frequently posted suggestions that are NGTH.

As it stands now, anything w/ moderate steam that may be NGTH is brought to Catch's attention via the mod forum and he makes that determination. There's no way to keep a HUGE listing of everything that is NGTH. The list just becomes unreadable (as it stands now).


Then maybe they should trim the list down and revisit ideas that have been overlooked due to difficulty or laziness.
 
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If we are beta testers then why shut out so many ideas from your testers?
 
InRomoWeTrust
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We're not beta testers. Playing a game that has a beta tag does not make you a tester.
Edited by Mat McBriar on Jan 13, 2012 23:36:04
 
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So we've mastered beta?
 
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