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It seems to me that a dot in man coverage from a deep position tends to keep that deep offset for a while after the snap. That can lead to the receiver turning and becoming open.

This has happened (see example, LOLB and TE) to me even when the defender has -1 yard coverage set in tactics.

http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1895371&pbp_id=5331067&flash=1

Can we not have a tactical slider to set how long the defender will wait for the receiver before backpedalling into his coverage? With -1 being till the receiver reaches his coverage cushion setting, and +1 being taking off at the snap and 0 being parts between.

Would be nice to have a little more control over this to avoid frustrations like that play. And yes I know I could put him on top of the TE to begin with but there is run coverage to consider as well. WIth this slider he could cover both better.

EDIT an example of a real NFL coverage from post below

In this video here, the defender covering the slot receiver is about 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage. He stands still for a moment as the receiver begins his route and comes towards him and only steps back 1.5 yards in the last second so that by 5 yards away from the line of scrimmage he is in tight man coverage practically touching the guy (play starting around 16 seconds into the video)
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d81363991/WK-5-Playbook-Eagles-pass-protection

In our example above in GLB, the LOLB is 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage in coverage on the tight end. He not only doesn't wait for the receiver to come to him, he runs AWAY from him, being 4 yards away two ticks into the play, and by the time the TE reaches 5 yards down field (where the real defender above is now in tight coverage) the LB is TEN yards off the line of scrimmage and FIVE yards from the receiver, a full yard and half further away than he was at the hike of the ball.

This, remember, is a LB with a vision north of 75, good agility and speed and whose tactical settings this game were -1 yards coverage cushion, semiaggressive ball coverage, and favoring the Pass play.

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Can't have your cake and eat it too as a DC. You want him to be able to shut down the run back him off, you want him to play tight coverage play him right over the guy he is covering. Counter-intuitive to real football but then dotball often is.

Originally posted by merenoise
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Can't have your cake and eat it too as a DC. You want him to be able to shut down the run back him off, you want him to play tight coverage play him right over the guy he is covering. Counter-intuitive to real football but then dotball often is.

Its not really counter intuitive. There is no reason a real football player could not sit back from the line of scrimmage and wait to back pedal into coverage till the receiver came closer to him, so that he could maintain his position on the field to be there to move toward a screen while still being able to maintain tight coverage when the receiver comes closer.

What IS counter intuitive and counter real football is forcing a defender to maintain that X yard gap in coverage over the route just because it existed at the hike of the ball. He could do that if he likes, and my idea allows that option. But it ought not be a mandatory X yard pole strapped between him and the receiver.

And its not without risks, some cake is getting eaten and lost. The receiver is still wide open for the yards he is moving towards the receiver, and he might cut before he closes that distance which would make the defender play catch up.

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In this video here, the defender covering the slot receiver is about 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage. He stands still for a moment as the receiver begins his route and comes towards him and only steps back 1.5 yards in the last second so that by 5 yards away from the line of scrimmage he is in tight man coverage practically touching the guy (play starting around 16 seconds into the video)
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d81363991/WK-5-Playbook-Eagles-pass-protection

In our example above in GLB, the LOLB is 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage in coverage on the tight end. He not only doesn't wait for the receiver to come to him, he runs AWAY from him, being 4 yards away two ticks into the play, and by the time the TE reaches 5 yards down field (where the real defender above is now in tight coverage) the LB is TEN yards off the line of scrimmage and FIVE yards from the receiver, a full yard and half further away than he was at the hike of the ball.

This, remember, is a LB with a vision north of 75, good agility and speed and whose tactical settings this game were -1 yards coverage cushion, semiaggressive ball coverage, and favoring the Pass play.

So tell me again how my idea is a bad one.

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Originally posted by yello1
In this video here, the defender covering the slot receiver is about 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage. He stands still for a moment as the receiver begins his route and comes towards him and only steps back 1.5 yards in the last second so that by 5 yards away from the line of scrimmage he is in tight man coverage practically touching the guy (play starting around 16 seconds into the video)
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d81363991/WK-5-Playbook-Eagles-pass-protection

In our example above in GLB, the LOLB is 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage in coverage on the tight end. He not only doesn't wait for the receiver to come to him, he runs AWAY from him, being 4 yards away two ticks into the play, and by the time the TE reaches 5 yards down field (where the real defender above is now in tight coverage) the LB is TEN yards off the line of scrimmage and FIVE yards from the receiver, a full yard and half further away than he was at the hike of the ball.

This, remember, is a LB with a vision north of 75, good agility and speed and whose tactical settings this game were -1 yards coverage cushion, semiaggressive ball coverage, and favoring the Pass play.

So tell me again how my idea is a bad one.

No one has to tell you anything by them simply putting a -1 it lets you know they do not agree with you. and there is no need for you to keep arguing the point

Originally posted by hatchman
No one has to tell you anything by them simply putting a -1 it lets you know they do not agree with you. and there is no need for you to keep arguing the point

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Originally posted by hatchman
No one has to tell you anything by them simply putting a -1 it lets you know they do not agree with you. and there is no need for you to keep arguing the point

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Originally posted by yello1
Its not really counter intuitive. There is no reason a real football player could not sit back from the line of scrimmage and wait to back pedal into coverage till the receiver came closer to him, so that he could maintain his position on the field to be there to move toward a screen while still being able to maintain tight coverage when the receiver comes closer.

What IS counter intuitive and counter real football is forcing a defender to maintain that X yard gap in coverage over the route just because it existed at the hike of the ball. He could do that if he likes, and my idea allows that option. But it ought not be a mandatory X yard pole strapped between him and the receiver.

And its not without risks, some cake is getting eaten and lost. The receiver is still wide open for the yards he is moving towards the receiver, and he might cut before he closes that distance which would make the defender play catch up.




This is all true, of course when it happens in real football, the QB checks off and tosses a TD to the WR that just did a double move.

-1 Not needed.

Originally posted by yello1
In this video here, the defender covering the slot receiver is about 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage. He stands still for a moment as the receiver begins his route and comes towards him and only steps back 1.5 yards in the last second so that by 5 yards away from the line of scrimmage he is in tight man coverage practically touching the guy (play starting around 16 seconds into the video)
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d81363991/WK-5-Playbook-Eagles-pass-protection

In our example above in GLB, the LOLB is 3.5 yards off the line of scrimmage in coverage on the tight end. He not only doesn't wait for the receiver to come to him, he runs AWAY from him, being 4 yards away two ticks into the play, and by the time the TE reaches 5 yards down field (where the real defender above is now in tight coverage) the LB is TEN yards off the line of scrimmage and FIVE yards from the receiver, a full yard and half further away than he was at the hike of the ball.

This, remember, is a LB with a vision north of 75, good agility and speed and whose tactical settings this game were -1 yards coverage cushion, semiaggressive ball coverage, and favoring the Pass play.

So tell me again how my idea is a bad one.

-1 for even trying g to use RL football to compare to GLB which is a browser based simulation that rely on dots being programmed.



The reason people may just -1 is because they are sick of your carp. They try to be rational and point out some of your flawes in your ideas and you there have been times you blasted them for it(I know you will say they started it or some stupid crap)
But there has been times you just you antagonized people.This a perfect exam. really, dude just grow up and stop thinking you have the best ideas in the world. Damn your crap is getting so old

I am going to buy a team and name it (wait for it wait for it)

Team Name: Yello1's Suggestion Forum
Player Names: Will be actual Yello1 suggestions
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