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yello1
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Have you ever noticed that there is no defensive VA answer to Slot Receiver?

Unless I am missing it, there ain't.

New VA, Nickelback, the player makes the most of his limited playtime, +x% to speed, agility, vision, and chance to deflect or knock loose passes per point of NB when man coverage versus the opposing WR3.

Per reply below, a better set of boost to Swat Ball and Shutdown Coverage and a direct % boost to vision.
Edited by yello1 on Dec 26, 2011 09:59:35
 
Myd
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+1 Not bad in concept.
 
Skoll Wolfrun
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Originally posted by Myd
+1 Not bad in concept.


Too bad it is names after a crappy band.
 
yello1
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Originally posted by Skoll Wolfrun
Originally posted by Myd

+1 Not bad in concept.


Too bad it is names after a crappy band.


Heh well you could call it Dimeback but then it would have to be the WR4.

 
hatchman
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Not a bad idea in concept and could be somewhat useful. will put a +1 or -1 after I let the idea soak in along with the others Yello1 has posted in the last day or so. so many suggestions so little time to spend trying to figure if they would truly help or be a waste of time.


after taking time to let this suggestion sink in I have decided to give it a -1.
Edited by hatchman on Dec 27, 2011 23:10:42
 
Outlaw Dogs
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What I don't like about it is that it is a plus to attributes against a plus to SAs. should probably be a a plus to the strength of Swat balls & Super vision instead of the +x% to speed, agility, vision, which isn't that what Ball hawk gave and we just got nerfed?
 
yello1
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Originally posted by Outlaw Dogs
What I don't like about it is that it is a plus to attributes against a plus to SAs. should probably be a a plus to the strength of Swat balls & Super vision instead of the +x% to speed, agility, vision, which isn't that what Ball hawk gave and we just got nerfed?


You are right. I was not looking at the VA when posting the suggestion.

The net effect of the Slot Machine VA is to boost Speed Agility Catching and Vision. but other than Vision it IS via boosting SAs Route Running and Sticky Hands and a vision boost. So you are correct. A better set of boosts would be Swat Ball and Shutdown Coverage and a direct % boost to vision, that would pretty well mirror the Slot Machine boosts. Jack Hammer boost would be nice too but thats adding more than its countering.
 
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Not sure why the nickel back would get any sort of boost to kl/jackammer. Doesn't really make any sense at all. I could see swat ball and shutdown coverage I guess tho.
 
yello1
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Originally posted by bhall43
Not sure why the nickel back would get any sort of boost to kl/jackammer. Doesn't really make any sense at all. I could see swat ball and shutdown coverage I guess tho.


Yeah, no real good reason. Just goes to being a DB in general, but SMachine doesnt boost holding on to the ball so KL isn't needed.
 
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+1
 
Ken1
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-1. I strongly oppose the concept of creating counter VA's for existing VA's. If a VA changes the balance between positions, it very likely was meant to do so and shouldn't be directly counter-able.
 
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+1 ... i like the concept of more VAs in general
 
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Originally posted by Myd
+1 Not bad in concept.


 
yello1
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Originally posted by Ken1
-1. I strongly oppose the concept of creating counter VA's for existing VA's. If a VA changes the balance between positions, it very likely was meant to do so and shouldn't be directly counter-able.


Its entirely possible that

1) That the reason it was "meant to do so" was misguided.

2) That the reason it was "meant to do so" is no longer relevant.

3) In this particular instance can you think of a single reason that your WR3 should be rendered your most dangerous wideout merely because he lines up in the slot and gets a large boost to his performance?

4) Are you quite certain that your answer to #3 remains valid in the new pass friendly world of Season 26?
Edited by yello1 on Dec 26, 2011 16:39:29
 
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Originally posted by yello1
I figured out how I was being stupid.
Edited by CNinja on Dec 26, 2011 17:20:43
 
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