what stat tells the most about your QB? is it comp%? if so what is a good %?
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Originally posted by underdog13
QBR is the best but Glb does not have that as a stat.
yes it does.
QBR is the best but Glb does not have that as a stat.
yes it does.
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The Qb rating you see in the stat column is his passer rating and is not correctly identified. This is the QBR http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6833215/explaining-statistics-total-quarterback-rating
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Originally posted by lucifer_pdx
QBR is overrated. Look at Yards per Attempt.
no because if you play in a offense that doesnt go deep alot then that isnt right.
QBR is overrated. Look at Yards per Attempt.
no because if you play in a offense that doesnt go deep alot then that isnt right.
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Originally posted by mhayes
what stat tells the most about your QB? is it comp%? if so what is a good %?
EL.. The rest has too much conference / team variable.
what stat tells the most about your QB? is it comp%? if so what is a good %?
EL.. The rest has too much conference / team variable.
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Originally posted by Shrazkil
EL.. The rest has too much conference / team variable.
Disagree. All EL tells you how effective you are at generating SPs for your player. You can have two QBs (or any other position) with the same Effective Level and if the points aren't spent wisely, one could perform much worse than the other. I would go with passer rating. The reason I say this is that if it is good, he is doing what he should be doing for your team, no matter the level or league.
EL.. The rest has too much conference / team variable.
Disagree. All EL tells you how effective you are at generating SPs for your player. You can have two QBs (or any other position) with the same Effective Level and if the points aren't spent wisely, one could perform much worse than the other. I would go with passer rating. The reason I say this is that if it is good, he is doing what he should be doing for your team, no matter the level or league.
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Originally posted by Donner
Disagree. All EL tells you how effective you are at generating SPs for your player. You can have two QBs (or any other position) with the same Effective Level and if the points aren't spent wisely, one could perform much worse than the other. I would go with passer rating. The reason I say this is that if it is good, he is doing what he should be doing for your team, no matter the level or league.
Disagree, stats in competitive or weak conference mean nothing, a poorly build QB can thrive in the right division. You would have to compair the QB Rating of every quarterback in that conference, after 16 weeks, to make that a remotely accurate measure. EL on the other hand, especially with QB's, is going to be consistant regardless of other factors. Whats a QB going to really do to get a great EL and mess up the build ... no really. Unless they are dumb enough to cap throwing like third, or start raising all their no alg stats, it should at worst be 95% accurate judge of talent. I would venture basing of QB rating alone yields less then 60% judging accuracy.
For instance your QB Abby flamethrower , looking at your QB 2 seasons ago, if you judged rating, you might think it was a good QB. Look at the EL, and you see she's a dumpster fire, as her last 2 seasons have demonstrated.
Disagree. All EL tells you how effective you are at generating SPs for your player. You can have two QBs (or any other position) with the same Effective Level and if the points aren't spent wisely, one could perform much worse than the other. I would go with passer rating. The reason I say this is that if it is good, he is doing what he should be doing for your team, no matter the level or league.
Disagree, stats in competitive or weak conference mean nothing, a poorly build QB can thrive in the right division. You would have to compair the QB Rating of every quarterback in that conference, after 16 weeks, to make that a remotely accurate measure. EL on the other hand, especially with QB's, is going to be consistant regardless of other factors. Whats a QB going to really do to get a great EL and mess up the build ... no really. Unless they are dumb enough to cap throwing like third, or start raising all their no alg stats, it should at worst be 95% accurate judge of talent. I would venture basing of QB rating alone yields less then 60% judging accuracy.
For instance your QB Abby flamethrower , looking at your QB 2 seasons ago, if you judged rating, you might think it was a good QB. Look at the EL, and you see she's a dumpster fire, as her last 2 seasons have demonstrated.
Edited by Shrazkil on Nov 28, 2011 19:56:19
Edited by Shrazkil on Nov 28, 2011 19:52:41
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Originally posted by underdog13
The Qb rating you see in the stat column is his passer rating and is not correctly identified. This is the QBR http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6833215/explaining-statistics-total-quarterback-rating
The link you provided goes to a rating that has a low of 0 and a high of 100. One of the QBs on my team has a rating of 120. Obviously this rating isn't QBR. It's probably just his passer rating by the old system with a max of 158.3.
The Qb rating you see in the stat column is his passer rating and is not correctly identified. This is the QBR http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6833215/explaining-statistics-total-quarterback-rating
The link you provided goes to a rating that has a low of 0 and a high of 100. One of the QBs on my team has a rating of 120. Obviously this rating isn't QBR. It's probably just his passer rating by the old system with a max of 158.3.
Edited by lucifer_pdx on Dec 5, 2011 01:11:54
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Originally posted by Shrazkil
EL.. The rest has too much conference / team variable.
Agreed. While EL may not be a perfect measuring stick, it's much better than just going off of QBR. As Shraz mentioned in his post there are just too many variables that go into a QB's success; age, league, conference, coordinators, surrounding cast, etc.
Originally posted by lucifer_pdx
The link you provided goes to a rating that has a low of 0 and a high of 100. One of the QBs on my team has a rating of 120. Obviously this rating isn't QBR. It's probably just his passer rating by the old system with a max of 158.3.
That's the new QBR that ESPN came out with this year, it hasn't really caught on.
Originally posted by Thunder66
WL Championship wins.
Fixed.
EL.. The rest has too much conference / team variable.
Agreed. While EL may not be a perfect measuring stick, it's much better than just going off of QBR. As Shraz mentioned in his post there are just too many variables that go into a QB's success; age, league, conference, coordinators, surrounding cast, etc.
Originally posted by lucifer_pdx
The link you provided goes to a rating that has a low of 0 and a high of 100. One of the QBs on my team has a rating of 120. Obviously this rating isn't QBR. It's probably just his passer rating by the old system with a max of 158.3.
That's the new QBR that ESPN came out with this year, it hasn't really caught on.
Originally posted by Thunder66
WL Championship wins.
Fixed.
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