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Just judging from my own games and memories of glancing at scores around the league, it seems to me that the scores have become alot closer and less LOL'ish. Still some 70 pointers but thats not quite as insane as they have been (not counting the CPU club).

Did OPL get more competitive, or is this the result of the AEQ "nerf" that undid some of the silly in the system?

Or am I just not noticing the blow outs?

Anyway, much funner game as a result. Keeps me in my Luxury Box, fun fun fun.

Nope

Its may seem more competitive for a team like OTM but that is only because OPL is overrun with teams that are not "end-game" yet. The large Nat Pro structure just doesnt work. There is just not enough dots in plateau as well as quality coordinators to support it. Easily 3/4 of OPL does not belong at the Nat Pro level. OPL is quite possibly the worst its ever been.

You think this season has been more fun and I would say it has probably been the most boring OPL season I experienced.

ya those games are so close and competitive because they are vs. other under leveled teams. When those teams play the top tier teams they get blown out.

Originally posted by beenlurken


Its may seem more competitive for a team like OTM but that is only because OPL is overrun with teams that are not "end-game" yet. The large Nat Pro structure just doesnt work. There is just not enough dots in plateau as well as quality coordinators to support it. Easily 3/4 of OPL does not belong at the Nat Pro level. OPL is quite possibly the worst its ever been.

You think this season has been more fun and I would say it has probably been the most boring OPL season I experienced.

And this is probably the worst team you guys have had in like 10 seasons

Moi say WAT

Exactly!

Also, when All Good Things is sitting at 8-1 (going to finish at worst 10-6 and I wouldnt be surprised with 11-5 or even 12-4) with still a good chunk of their roster being CPU there is a huge problem. I dont care how good Hcreek is... a team with 30% of their roster being CPU and essentially 0 cares should consider themselves lucky to avoid demotion not be in contention for a home playoff game.

And so there is no confusion, this is not meant to be a knock at most of OPL. There are easily 5-10 teams in OPL the will be solid teams in a season or two. They have quality coordinators and quality dots... just their dots are not old enough yet. Unfortunately, they have to waste a season or two being uncompetitive because there isnt anything better in Regional Pro to send up. The sad thing, and the reason I use a big range of 5-10, is that some of these young teams are farm teams that will move dots to their more focused teams and/or will just simply lose dots/agents that couldnt wait the season or two to be competitive. Look at what happened with teams like Kona and SDS... correct me if I am wrong, but they came up, showed a lot of promise despite being young and then struggled to keep their players as they played the waiting game.

been, you sure about that?

Just glancing at the stats of some of your returning players seems to suggest that your performance is down this season, which you would think it would be UP if the rest of OPL was becoming worse and that was the only reason for the parity.

Your star runner is making less yards per carry and less TDs, your kick returner less yards per carry on KR, alot less, (though more on PR it should be said), and the one of your stellar ST coverage guys I looked at has significantly less forced fumbles.

Seems to me that the only explanation for THAT is the AEQ% piece nerf. Its doing what I wanted it to do, and presumably what Bort intended. Its trimming the silly back on the game results. I like it.

As for boring, wtf? You serious? You would rather watch the 100-X and 90/80 to X blow outs you routinely played in last season than the far more interesting closer games? Your vaunted squad hasn't tagged more than 70+ all season except the bottom two clubs, and mostly far less than that. How can that be LESS interesting than running up the score?????

You like pulling the wings off of bugs? Stealing Candy from babies?

Just do not get how you would find this boring compared to the blow out slop.

OPL Alpha competitive teams by season

S21: SBD, Kingston, GCMM, Voodoo, Death, Gurupies, Banzai
S22: BDC, Buda, Devonport, Kingston, Banzai, Voodoo, GCMM
S23: Buda, Gurupies, Banzai, GCMM, SWAT, Axis
S24: Gurupies, Brantford, Axis, Banzai, SWAT

Its just getting worse each season and I even think some of those listed in S23/24 are a stretch. Thank God Sumatra is running Brantford now or they wouldnt be on the list. Not only has OPL declined in the amount of good teams but the overall quality of those teams have declined.

As for stats from last season to now... lolstats. Our regular season care meter is at an all time low. I actually feel extremely guilty for the lack of effort I have put into our ST's this season compared to last and to what I do for Devonport. Making the playoffs is a guarantee.

Lastly, a 100+ point win or a 30 point win makes no difference. Knowing you are going to win the game is BORING. There are just fewer games this season then past seasons that I feel we could lose. That is BORING. I want a challenge that will actually make me care about most games.

The fact that you somewhat enjoy this season is proof enough that Nat Pro needs to be contracted so that young teams and teams like OTM are forced back into Reg Pro where they can compete with each other on a much more level playing ground until they either mature in dot age and/or coordinating quality.

Originally posted by beenlurken


OPL Alpha competitive teams by season

S21: SBD, Kingston, GCMM, Voodoo, Death, Gurupies, Banzai
S22: BDC, Buda, Devonport, Kingston, Banzai, Voodoo, GCMM
S23: Buda, Gurupies, Banzai, GCMM, SWAT, Axis
S24: Gurupies, Brantford, Axis, Banzai, SWAT

Its just getting worse each season and I even think some of those listed in S23/24 are a stretch. Thank God Sumatra is running Brantford now or they wouldnt be on the list. Not only has OPL declined in the amount of good teams but the overall quality of those teams have declined.

As for stats from last season to now... lolstats. Our regular season care meter is at an all time low. I actually feel extremely guilty for the lack of effort I have put into our ST's this season compared to last and to what I do for Devonport. Making the playoffs is a guarantee.

Lastly, a 100+ point win or a 30 point win makes no difference. Knowing you are going to win the game is BORING. There are just fewer games this season then past seasons that I feel we could lose. That is BORING. I want a challenge that will actually make me care about most games.

The fact that you somewhat enjoy this season is proof enough that Nat Pro needs to be contracted so that young teams and teams like OTM are forced back into Reg Pro where they can compete with each other on a much more level playing ground until they either mature in dot age and/or coordinating quality.

Well I haven't looked at every game but the 30 point wins I have been looking at have mostly been decided in the closing portion of the game and by no means was obvious coming down the pike. Maybe your uber GLB knowledge makes you know whats going to happen but hey I guess it sux to be you.

And why is it that your 0 care is still uber leet while mine should be regulated to reg pro exactly? Arrogance thy name is beenlurken!

And as for sending us to Reg Pro, my scrubs and up and comers generally do well there. I would imagine our level 75-80 players would make that as boring a romp as your teams had here last season and as OTM had in AAA coming up here in S15. So I do not think that solution would be any better at achieving parity.

Originally posted by yello1
Well I haven't looked at every game but the 30 point wins I have been looking at have mostly been decided in the closing portion of the game and by no means was obvious coming down the pike. Maybe your uber GLB knowledge makes you know whats going to happen but hey I guess it sux to be you.

And why is it that your 0 care is still uber leet while mine should be regulated to reg pro exactly? Arrogance thy name is beenlurken!



If I am being brutally honest, before the season started I would have told you Indy, SWAT and Axis were the only teams in Alpha that I thought could/would beat us when we were trying... since then Brantford has made changes and I would now include them in that mix. Teams like Drank and Stuttgart were intriguing but they are just too young (maybe old enough come playoff time, probably not). GCMM are not what they once were but still a team that can knock you off if you look past them but not what I would consider a huge threat. And then there is the intrigue of what AGT was going to do after filling 70% of the roster... but lets not kid ourselves, I dont see the challenge in a team with that many CPU. Would you disagree with that preseason analysis of our situation in Alpha?


Because our 0 cares is still much better than your best effort. Call that arrogance but it is what is...

Seriously, do you start each season thinking you will have a chance? While I admire your persistence/determination, I think you are insane to want to stay at this level continually getting your ass handed to you. Clearly, you are not learning anything. You might think you are improving but you would be wrong, it has more to do with OPL crumbling around you. Sadly, I get the impression that is what you want... everyone else to drop down to your level instead of you rising to theirs.

W 27-13
W 45-13
W 209-10
W 63-0
W 94-28

That is every matchup between Banzai and OTM from S19-S23. The only game that was remotely close was the first matchup and that was only because the overwhelming majority of our dots were a season or two away from plateau. Im sorry if it offends you but we just dont enjoy playing your team... personally I see it as a complete waste of time. Would I love to see OTM rise up and provide a challenge... HELL YES!! Unfortunately it is stuck with a shity owner that would rather whine about the forums that the game needs to be nerfed down to his level instead of putting in some effort to learn the game or bring in people to help that do (sadly you have turned off/away many that have/would have).

Originally posted by yello1
And as for sending us to Reg Pro, my scrubs and up and comers generally do well there. I would imagine our level 75-80 players would make that as boring a romp as your teams had here last season and as OTM had in AAA coming up here in S15. So I do not think that solution would be any better at achieving parity.

I am quite certain OTM would not win Reg Pro Elite this season... it is where you belong.

Is it possible to care less than 0, because that is where I am this season.

Originally posted by beenlurken
Originally posted by yello1

And as for sending us to Reg Pro, my scrubs and up and comers generally do well there. I would imagine our level 75-80 players would make that as boring a romp as your teams had here last season and as OTM had in AAA coming up here in S15. So I do not think that solution would be any better at achieving parity.

I am quite certain OTM would not win Reg Pro Elite this season... it is where you belong.

Seems to me that by that measure I belong in World League. I couldn't win there either. Your team too.

Clue in, competitive does not mean any given team is going to win the championship that season. Thats not a realistic expectation in real NFL play nor in GLB. Give that a rest. GLB can not survive if 99% of the player base is tossed aside as also rans so you can have a few fantasy leagues. The few players that would fit into those leagues would not be enough to keep Bort in Beer money let alone let him run a company. And it would also make no sense. Part of the game, any game, is the struggle to compete. The NFL would suck nuts if it had 8 teams in it even though thats all that have a decent sniff at a super bowl shot any given season.

So while I agree that blow out games suck (though you preferred them at the start of the thread, go figure) thats not the same as everyone being in some communist co-competitive level league.

As for us not being able to win Elite, nonsense, same to not being in National Pro. We are what? 70 EL points under your club? 1175 whatever yours is. Thats not bad. Yeah our coaching is not great, neither of us gets the time to scout or gameplan much at all and I havent done a full one since not sure when. Not even sure if I managed one for the playoffs last season. Wife and kids and work don't allow that much time. But that said, OTM has still been able to stay in OPL for 9 consectutive seasons this season included. We have been into the playoffs almost half of those seasons and got past the first game in two of them, even getting into a conference game one of those. We positively belong in the National Pros.

What DOESN'T belong here is an arrogant attitude like yours. I mean seriously dude, give THAT a rest as well. You are not gods gift to gaming, football nor GLB. I am. So stop trying to steal my gig.