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Best Pee Wee Teams of All Time: I'm not including any more than 5 this time, so discuss other possible teams.

This Season:

Gold Winner- ?
Cup Winner- FG
Official Pee Wee Tourney Winner- FG

1 Maine: They will be #1 through this season no matter what.

Titles (14 Major): 3 Gold Titles, 2 Official Tourney Titles, 4 Air Attack Titles, 2 Addicts Titles, 1 FTW Title, 1 Silver Tourney Title, 1 PIT Title, 347 Wins

2 SBWL- They will drop behind FG or Crackertown if either wins gold.

Titles (10 Major): 1 Gold Title, 2 League #5 Titles, 1 Official Tourney Title, 1 FTW Title, 3 AAT Titles, 2 Halo's Titles, 623 Wins

3 Crackertown- They can pass SBWL by winning gold to give them 3 titles.

Titles (3 Major): 2 Gold Titles, 1 Official Tourney Title

4 FG- They probably need a gold title or 2 more tourney titles to pass Crackertown or 3-4 more to pass SBWL.

Titles (5 Major): 1 Gold Title, 1 Addicts Tourney Title, 2 Pee Wee Cup Titles (24- zmj, 25-Commission), 1 Official Tourney Title

5 Cascade- They are inactive and due to body of work, this spot is very vulnerable to Chicago, but really after Chicago, there are no other active teams that have had a long body of successful work, so unless Chicago wins gold, this spot could be theirs for a long time until another team starts to build something, maybe an old team like Crib or a newer team like Boendby.

Titles (4 Major): 1 Gold Title, 2 AAT Titles, 1 Official Tourney Title, 194 wins

Teams that can move into the top 5 this season:

Chicago 85' Bears- If they win gold, they will be ahead of Cascade for #5 due to a far superior body of work.

San Antonio Saviors -
Seasons 10-16 ------ 110 Wins 1 Loss 2 Ties,
The Saviors made a run no team can match. This during a time when Silver Conferences were 6-8 teams deep.
Multiple League Conference Championships combined with
Season 13 - 14, Final 4 appearances in the Air it Out Tourny
Season 14 Silver Tourny Runner Up
Season 14 - 15 Halo Champs

The true power of this team was never realized due to Dead.Eds refusal to help Bort buy his own pvt yacht. If this team would have always boosted with CEQ I have a feeling the teams posted above would surely have a few more L's and I wouldn't be surprised if Ed wouldn't have a Gold title along the way.

Other Stats worth mentioning

SBWL - Season 14-15 PWGold = 22 Game Regular Season Winning Streak. 1st Ever Perfect Season (15) in Gold
FG - Season 17-19 PWGold = 31 Game Regular Season Winning Streak. 2nd Team to have Perfect Season (18) in Gold
Dirty Inc - Season 17 - 19 PWGold = 28 Game Regular Season Winning Streak. Undefeated PWG Western Conference(18)

PNP had a 25 regular season winning streak or something like that from S20-S21

Originally posted by zmj44
PNP had a 25 regular season winning streak or something like that from S20-S21

23 to be exact

Originally posted by DirtyMike
Other Stats worth mentioning

SBWL - Season 14-15 PWGold = 22 Game Regular Season Winning Streak. 1st Ever Perfect Season (15) in Gold
FG - Season 17-19 PWGold = 31 Game Regular Season Winning Streak. 2nd Team to have Perfect Season (18) in Gold
Dirty Inc - Season 17 - 19 PWGold = 28 Game Regular Season Winning Streak. Undefeated PWG Western Conference(18)


FG also had another streak of 21 from season 15 to season 17. In total from game 14 of season 15 to game 7 of season 19, FG's regular season record was 58-2. However, that was a different era when regular season competition was not as stiff. IMO, regular season competition was at its strongest from season 11-14 and from season 20-23. Notice that all but 6 games of these streaks occurred between season 15 and season 19 where the competition especially in the east was not very strong; I know from being there. Some teams that really weren't that good had great records in the east. Here are the best examples, no offense to any of the teams here: Season 15 FG- 15-1, no success anywhere else, lost to Crackertown in the 2nd round, Season 17 Project Pee Wee Mayhem- 15-1, no success anywhere else, destroyed by FG twice, the next team on the list, Season 17 FG- 14-2, nothing special about that team, probably the worst team ever to make it to the championship game, Season 18 Long Island Knights PW- 13-3, nothing special about them either, they just happened to be the 2nd best team in a weak east and were eliminated by Crackertown in the 1st round. Season 17 and season 18 were really when everything was at an all time low. The passing game was super strong and the custom EQ issues were high on people's mind. Even compared to season 16, it was a weak time. Compare Season 16 FG in the regular season to Season 18 FG: the season 16 version won 5 games in its perfect regular season by 7 points or less and 4 of those by 3 points or less. If a couple breaks hadn't gone my way, that team could have been 11-5 or 12-4. However, Season 18 FG won 1 game by 7 points over Maine and won every other game by 14 points or more. This all shows why these streaks don't happen anymore. Maine won the season 21 and 22 championships with a record of 11-5; they were just as good as the season 20 team, the regular season competition was just much stiffer. Now, I do think this goes in cycles and this might change, but right now, gold is as tough as it has ever been.

Thread title should be 'Franchises' not teams.

Originally posted by PING72
Thread title should be 'Franchises' not teams.

What do you mean by that?

What he means is that in NFL terms a team is a certain year in a Franchise's life... such as the 1970s Steelers are a Team, where as the Steelers are a franchise.

A discussion (in NFL terms) of the best team ever would likely bring up discussions of the undefeated dolphins, the steel curtain, and America's Team... but discussion of the Best franchise would only make mention of those teams in relegation to discussing which franchise was the best overall-including all of their teams over the year.

Transferring this to GLB: You say Season 16 FG-which is a Team, discussing the best Team ever would be saying " S16 FG would beat all yall's asses" whereas discussing the best Franchise ever would be saying "S16 FG was really good, but S17-S18 FG sucked big time-so is FG really that good anyway"?

If you get my drift.

I'm aware I just patronizingly over-explained this... but I felt the need... you did ask quite a silly question

Originally posted by Lobster Weed
What he means is that in NFL terms a team is a certain year in a Franchise's life... such as the 1970s Steelers are a Team, where as the Steelers are a franchise.

A discussion (in NFL terms) of the best team ever would likely bring up discussions of the undefeated dolphins, the steel curtain, and America's Team... but discussion of the Best franchise would only make mention of those teams in relegation to discussing which franchise was the best overall-including all of their teams over the year.

Transferring this to GLB: You say Season 16 FG-which is a Team, discussing the best Team ever would be saying " S16 FG would beat all yall's asses" whereas discussing the best Franchise ever would be saying "S16 FG was really good, but S17-S18 FG sucked big time-so is FG really that good anyway"?

If you get my drift.

I'm aware I just patronizingly over-explained this... but I felt the need... you did ask quite a silly questionXD

Pretty much this. I think many of the top 'teams' are nowhere on your list b/c they only existed for a few seasons. Your list is franchises and basically is praise for the teams that have had sustained success.

Originally posted by PING72
Pretty much this. I think many of the top 'teams' are nowhere on your list b/c they only existed for a few seasons. Your list is franchises and basically is praise for the teams that have had sustained success.

If you guys are looking for best gold teams, then season 20-22 Maine is #1, and probably season 13-15 SBWL is up there as is season 16-18 FG along with season 15-17 Cascade. The only teams I would consider from the pre-gold era are season 8-11 SBWL and season 7-10 Fight Club Academy, but I really don't remember that time well enough to make more judgements than that.

Season 7-8 loldots

Originally posted by LordEvil
Season 7-8 loldots

A good point, but I would probably put them behind all of these teams as they only were good for 2 seasons and didn't play much good competition.

Originally posted by jkid2
Originally posted by LordEvil

Season 7-8 loldots

A good point, but I would probably put them behind all of these teams as they only were good for 2 seasons and didn't play much good competition.

lol they only took on undefeated teams in season 8 and destroyed them all but 1. Darkus Blacks were the only team to beat them in 2 seasons and it was the very last game of the season.

Originally posted by LordEvil
lol they only took on undefeated teams in season 8 and destroyed them all but 1. Darkus Blacks were the only team to beat them in 2 seasons and it was the very last game of the season.

but there was no DPC, so none of the teams were that good back then

Originally posted by jkid2
Originally posted by LordEvil

lol they only took on undefeated teams in season 8 and destroyed them all but 1. Darkus Blacks were the only team to beat them in 2 seasons and it was the very last game of the season.

but there was no DPC, so none of the teams were that good back then

No DPC or not, everyone was still equal. Wasn't liek some had it and others didn't. Wasn't as many plays back then either or options but again, everyone was equal. Still can't disreguard what they did just because they didn't have advanced AI's, DPC, More plays, better passing game with a passing bonus, pump fake, cheaper custom, quicker created players, passing progressions, archtypes, 2 point conversions, more custom slots, complete control on every aspect of the game and a lot more.