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One more piece of AEQ yet to purchase, this will be a fake % chance, and +3 speed. I'm actually aiming for 10 in each SA on the top line, carrying will be increased through VA. Multi-training stamina/confidence/catching/strength for pretty much rest of career.

Terrence Trent Darby (Lv. 50 HB)
Ht/Wt: 5'6", 180lbs

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 44.1
Speed: 127.08 (+40)
Agility: 82.08
Jumping: 25
Stamina: 45.1
Vision: 68.08
Confidence: 44.1

Football Skills
Blocking: 6
Catching: 43.1
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 68.08
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Elusive Back Abilities
Quick Cut: 5
Head Fake: 1
First Step: 1
Juke: 1
Spin: 5

Power Back Abilities
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Stiff Arm: 0
Power Through: 0
Dive for Yardage: 0

Additional Abilities
Surge: 0
Veteran Abilities
Track Star: 3
Quick Feet: 15
Slippery: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Speed: +0.78
Spin chance: +30%
Head Fake chance: +30%
Juke chance: +30%
Break tackle chance: +17%

Kinda slow for an elusive back, and that's nowhere near enough carrying, with or without Steady Grip.

Originally posted by Forbin
Kinda slow for an elusive back, and that's nowhere near enough carrying, with or without Steady Grip.

you forgot to add he's wasting his training from 40-48 and to tell him his mother smells funny

Originally posted by bug03
you forgot to add he's wasting his training from 40-48 and to tell him his mother smells funny

Please elaborate. I like to learn something new everyday.

if you multi train from 40-48 you get roughly the same percentage as from 48-55. Except every time it rolls over its worth 2 sp instead of one...

Originally posted by bug03
if you multi train from 40-48 you get roughly the same percentage as from 48-55. Except every time it rolls over its worth 2 sp instead of one...

Ran a projected build using this info and it made quite a difference...Thanx!

Originally posted by Kctwarrior
Ran a projected build using this info and it made quite a difference...Thanx!
That'll be $14.95 please...

So, what are you guys saying, you spend the SP to go from 40 to 48 and then train?

If I were never planning on spending SP in those four attributes, that would have meant me taking 32 SP from elsewhere just to get those four higher

Way I see it, I have 15 more points to come from EQ which will ultimately mean a speed of around 140 (+VA gain) and agility of around 90. With 10 in most of the top line of SAs, I'm hoping that the lack of a slight amount of speed isn't going to matter. I know most people aren't in favour of that many SAs, but then not everyone is right.

With carrying, I agree. Probably going to sacrifice a few SA points to get that up higher, and also I am going to be using the carrying VA.

Originally posted by magicalmrrich
So, what are you guys saying, you spend the SP to go from 40 to 48 and then train?

If I were never planning on spending SP in those four attributes, that would have meant me taking 32 SP from elsewhere just to get those four higher

Way I see it, I have 15 more points to come from EQ which will ultimately mean a speed of around 140 (+VA gain) and agility of around 90. With 10 in most of the top line of SAs, I'm hoping that the lack of a slight amount of speed isn't going to matter. I know most people aren't in favour of that many SAs, but then not everyone is right.

With carrying, I agree. Probably going to sacrifice a few SA points to get that up higher, and also I am going to be using the carrying VA.

With my projected build, I was still able to reach 97 natural speed, 90 natural agility and 81 natural carry. All the while pushing strength, vision, and stamina higher than I've ever been able to. If you can manage a way to get those atts to 48, do it asap. As far as I could tell, there is no downside to this advice...

Originally posted by bug03

That'll be $14.95 please...

Just dropped the check in the mail....

Originally posted by magicalmrrich
So, what are you guys saying, you spend the SP to go from 40 to 48 and then train?

If I were never planning on spending SP in those four attributes, that would have meant me taking 32 SP from elsewhere just to get those four higher

Way I see it, I have 15 more points to come from EQ which will ultimately mean a speed of around 140 (+VA gain) and agility of around 90. With 10 in most of the top line of SAs, I'm hoping that the lack of a slight amount of speed isn't going to matter. I know most people aren't in favour of that many SAs, but then not everyone is right.

With carrying, I agree. Probably going to sacrifice a few SA points to get that up higher, and also I am going to be using the carrying VA.

if you absolutely 100% do not want to put any sp's into them, switch to light training and get the bt's because they are way more valuable than your training at that point...

The cool thing about that guy is he can link songs like this for his player:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Uz-dPANDY

Originally posted by bug03
if you absolutely 100% do not want to put any sp's into them, switch to light training and get the bt's because they are way more valuable than your training at that point...

Right, have to say, after running the player builder I disagree with you 100%. I ran the player builder based on continuing my training as I am (multi-training) and then switching to light on day 415 of career, in order to attain enough BT to have 3 maxed out pieces of AEQ.

I'm not going to bother going into speed etc as that will be the same either way... but below are the other attributes that were being trained - this is what you have at day 440:

Strength - 58.63
Stamina - 58.63
Confidence - 57.63
Catching - 56.63

I also used SP to bring carrying up to 74 immediately, thus giving me 77.91 carrying end build, same for both ways of training. I also ended up with 10-10-9-9-10 on the top line of SAs.

So then I tried it your way, training on light immediately. I trained strength first up to the 1st cap, then moved on to confidence, then stamina, then catching. What I got at the end was a surplus above the BT I needed to max three pieces of EQ of 378 BT. Now this is more than enough to make a final piece of AEQ maxed out and have 5 SP come from that as well. Or you could convert that surplus into 31 SP.

If converted into SP and used to top up the same 4 attributes mentioned above from the multi-training example, they would look like this:

Strength - 54.63
Stamina - 54.63
Confidence - 53.63
Catching - 54.63

Way worse off. So switching to light training now and converting the excess BT to SP makes no sense.

Or I could have 5 SP left over which would mean I would have those four attributes only just over 50 each, then have another piece of EQ... 3 more speed or agility and have a +25% fake chance.

Is it worth losing between 7 and 8 points in four attributes (equivalent loss in SP by switching to light training is around 60 SP) to gain 3 Speed and a 25% fake chance?

At 100 natural speed, 3 speed is 60 sp...

The difference between 54 and 56 in an attribute is nothing. Confidence, you don't need over 50 for any reason.
with 150+ speed, you're going to need more stamina than anything you've put down so far.

Your build will most likely end up

100 speed 85 agility 77 carrying 61 vision 61 stamina 61 strength 46 catching 44 confidence
Make that happen, and with 4 aeq's your dot will be really good.

I would go with 1 break tackle 1 fake chance and 1 catch ball at the very least. I would even consider sacrificing some strength to get catching a bit higher.

Well, vision is already higher than you say so I can't really do much about that. I tried through the player builder what you suggest and basically if I went with what you say I would have virtually no SAs, and I don't think that's really going to work for me. So what I did was switch to light training immediately, got speed up a little, got the carrying up some, trained a little of the 4 last attributes... this is what I came out with:

Attributes:
strength : 58.63
speed : 94.91 (152.19 with EQ and VA)
agility : 86.91 (96.82 with EQ and VA)
jumping : 25
stamina : 59.63
vision : 72.91
confidence : 50.63
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 50.63
carrying : 77.91
tackling : 8
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Top SA Tree: | 6 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 0 |

This would be with 4 pieces of AEQ, break tackle %, Spin SA, catch ball % and fake %.

VAs... probably would have track star (only 8 points in track star), big heart, quick feet, slippery and quick.

This is if I switch to light training immediately, it's the only way I would have enough BT for 4 pieces of AEQ.