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Flippin Hog
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I thought I knew what I was doing, but I'm starting to doubt myself. I'm taking Strength to 77, right? Or 81? He's MTing Stamina, Vision, Confidence and Tackling right now. Then what? Was Speed to 77 high enough? Future equipment in Speed? I'll be adding a 2nd BB% piece soon + the TV; 4th piece? VAs? Does he have a future?

Eighth Wonder (Lv. 38 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'3", 275lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $5000
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 2
Bonus Tokens: 50
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 689/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 65.76
Speed: 82.99 (+3)
Agility: 110.29 (+24)
Jumping: 9.2
Stamina: 30.56
Vision: 48.69
Confidence: 24.26

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 49.99
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 1
Change Direction: 1
Shed Blocks: 1
Tunnel Vision: 2
Big Sack: 1

Additional Abilities
Blitz: 0
Veteran Abilities
Jump the Snap: 6
Technique Man: 10

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Break block chance: +13%

 
Rage Kinard
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Strength to 81.

If you add 4th piece it should be in SB. You won't need a lot of CD with the agility build.

Personally, I'm not high on the putting almost all equip in agility DE myself, but it is personal preference. I know some people swear by them though.

 
Flippin Hog
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How high do good LOTs go with Agility? I just wanted to make sure Technique Man had a chance of firing on a regular basis.
 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by Flippin Hog
How high do good LOTs go with Agility? I just wanted to make sure Technique Man had a chance of firing on a regular basis.


Most only go to 90. I've seen a few go up to 100. If you have over 110 agility you will be safe against at least 99% of the OTs out there.
 
tautology
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by Flippin Hog

How high do good LOTs go with Agility? I just wanted to make sure Technique Man had a chance of firing on a regular basis.


Most only go to 90. I've seen a few go up to 100. If you have over 110 agility you will be safe against at least 99% of the OTs out there.


Highest I have seen at LOT is 113...but he was pretty terrible.



 
poeticfantasy
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by Rage Kinard

Originally posted by Flippin Hog


How high do good LOTs go with Agility? I just wanted to make sure Technique Man had a chance of firing on a regular basis.


Most only go to 90. I've seen a few go up to 100. If you have over 110 agility you will be safe against at least 99% of the OTs out there.


Highest I have seen at LOT is 113...but he was pretty terrible.





What about Gs and Cs? How high do they usually go with agility? I ask because my DT is agility based.
 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by poeticfantasy
What about Gs and Cs? How high do they usually go with agility? I ask because my DT is agility based.


The better ones go to about 90. I haven't seen any over 95, although if I were building them they would probably end up with 145-150 strength and 100-103 agility.
 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by tautology
Highest I have seen at LOT is 113...but he was pretty terrible.





That's why I said 99%. If it is the one I'm thinking about, I've seen it as well (not going to name names, but it belonged to a current WL team owner other than the one posting in this thread) and a few others over 100, but it is very rare.
 
Homage
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In my experience with DE's in the WL so far... I'd argue that you really shouldn't bother with agility over whatever is probably going to net you the Technique Man bonus 99.9% of the time.
 
Flippin Hog
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So bottom line with my dot above, he's got enough (too much) Agility at this point? I can put all future equipment in Speed, right? Strength to 81.

How about VAs? Do I need to switch JTS in the offseason? Pass Rusher? Streaky when I can put 15 in it? Would Bull Rusher or Heavyweight be effective yet for him with that Strength? What are your 2nd and 3rd choices and their order?
 
regoob2
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Originally posted by Flippin Hog
So bottom line with my dot above, he's got enough (too much) Agility at this point? I can put all future equipment in Speed, right? Strength to 81.

How about VAs? Do I need to switch JTS in the offseason? Pass Rusher? Streaky when I can put 15 in it? Would Bull Rusher or Heavyweight be effective yet for him with that Strength? What are your 2nd and 3rd choices and their order?


You can move some of that eq from agi to spd/str. I'd take spd to 83 then str to 83.
 
LordCreon
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Strength to 81.

If you add 4th piece it should be in SB. You won't need a lot of CD with the agility build.

On SA's, if you were only taking one beyond 11 for a Pass Rushing DE, which would it be? If you consider multiple options nearly equal, please let me know. Let's assume the DE is ending with 100+ AGI and 140+ SPD.
 
Homage
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Originally posted by LordCreon

On SA's, if you were only taking one beyond 11 for a Pass Rushing DE, which would it be? If you consider multiple options nearly equal, please let me know. Let's assume the DE is ending with 100+ AGI and 140+ SPD.


none of them.
 
tautology
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Originally posted by Flippin Hog
So bottom line with my dot above, he's got enough (too much) Agility at this point? I can put all future equipment in Speed, right? Strength to 81.

How about VAs? Do I need to switch JTS in the offseason? Pass Rusher? Streaky when I can put 15 in it? Would Bull Rusher or Heavyweight be effective yet for him with that Strength? What are your 2nd and 3rd choices and their order?



Your agility is currently lower than two of my DEs on MPHD...so I would not say that you have over-shot yet. I don't however have much idea whther it is too high for his current league/level.

I don't think I would go for Bullrusher or Heavyweight at this point, but the others you mention are all viable choices.



 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by LordCreon

On SA's, if you were only taking one beyond 11 for a Pass Rushing DE, which would it be? If you consider multiple options nearly equal, please let me know. Let's assume the DE is ending with 100+ AGI and 140+ SPD.


First step. However, I still would only take it to 15 at the absolute most (8 + 6 + 1 from CE)
 
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