I have read that Jump the Snap is less effective in higher level DE's. Any opinions ?
Rage Kinard
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jump the snap depends on how high vision is. IMO if vision is less than 70 it's worth it to have at least a few pts in it.
nevermind1991
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Vision is currently 69.24. I have Pass Rusher & Technique Man @ 15. Best third VA for a pass rusher ?
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by nevermind1992
Vision is currently 69.24. I have Pass Rusher & Technique Man @ 15. Best third VA for a pass rusher ?
heavyweight, and if you get strength over 80 natural (which you should be doing) then bull rusher as the 4th. In fact once strength is high enough I would go with tech man, bull rusher, and heavyweight over pass rusher.
Vision is currently 69.24. I have Pass Rusher & Technique Man @ 15. Best third VA for a pass rusher ?
heavyweight, and if you get strength over 80 natural (which you should be doing) then bull rusher as the 4th. In fact once strength is high enough I would go with tech man, bull rusher, and heavyweight over pass rusher.
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by nevermind1992
Vision is currently 69.24. I have Pass Rusher & Technique Man @ 15. Best third VA for a pass rusher ?
heavyweight, and if you get strength over 80 natural (which you should be doing) then bull rusher as the 4th. In fact once strength is high enough I would go with tech man, bull rusher, and heavyweight over pass rusher.
Cool thanks for the suggestions
Originally posted by nevermind1992
Vision is currently 69.24. I have Pass Rusher & Technique Man @ 15. Best third VA for a pass rusher ?
heavyweight, and if you get strength over 80 natural (which you should be doing) then bull rusher as the 4th. In fact once strength is high enough I would go with tech man, bull rusher, and heavyweight over pass rusher.
Cool thanks for the suggestions
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
jump the snap depends on how high vision is. IMO if vision is less than 70 it's worth it to have at least a few pts in it.
Why dont you like JTS if vision is over 70?
jump the snap depends on how high vision is. IMO if vision is less than 70 it's worth it to have at least a few pts in it.
Why dont you like JTS if vision is over 70?
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by regoob2
Why dont you like JTS if vision is over 70?
It's still ok to put some points in it, but JTS is designed to get you to pass the vision check after the snap. If you are already passing most of your vision checks by tick 2, then it isn't going to help that much.
The thing is a couple of seasons ago I think Bort made the vision check tougher without noting it in the changelog. I don't know where the point where you will not gain enough of an advantage to make it worthwhile. It may be 75 now.
Why dont you like JTS if vision is over 70?
It's still ok to put some points in it, but JTS is designed to get you to pass the vision check after the snap. If you are already passing most of your vision checks by tick 2, then it isn't going to help that much.
The thing is a couple of seasons ago I think Bort made the vision check tougher without noting it in the changelog. I don't know where the point where you will not gain enough of an advantage to make it worthwhile. It may be 75 now.
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Ive heard the opposite. JTS is more effective at higher levels because like Rage said the Vision factor. There are better VA's to use to start out for one, and two Vision will most likely be the 4th attribute you finish up. So once you get vision up, and get some of the better VA's mentioned earlier in the thread I would go for JTS. Unless, it has been nerfed since I last built a DE which was around season 5 or 6, I found very useful. JTS + FS + TV = you better hope my stam bar depletes before I knock your qb's head off.
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
It's still ok to put some points in it, but JTS is designed to get you to pass the vision check after the snap. If you are already passing most of your vision checks by tick 2, then it isn't going to help that much.
The thing is a couple of seasons ago I think Bort made the vision check tougher without noting it in the changelog. I don't know where the point where you will not gain enough of an advantage to make it worthwhile. It may be 75 now.
I know heavyweight is worded similarly. Any studies on that if you can get more back for your buck with that at less then 15? Thanks.
It's still ok to put some points in it, but JTS is designed to get you to pass the vision check after the snap. If you are already passing most of your vision checks by tick 2, then it isn't going to help that much.
The thing is a couple of seasons ago I think Bort made the vision check tougher without noting it in the changelog. I don't know where the point where you will not gain enough of an advantage to make it worthwhile. It may be 75 now.
I know heavyweight is worded similarly. Any studies on that if you can get more back for your buck with that at less then 15? Thanks.
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Originally posted by regoob2
I know heavyweight is worded similarly. Any studies on that if you can get more back for your buck with that at less then 15? Thanks.
I don't think so, and a study on heavyweight would be pretty hard as well. The problem is OL re-engage blocks so often, you could break a block and not even notice if you don't rev-cake the OL. The way the SIM works though, I want as much of a chance as possible to rev cake the blocker when I break the block.
I know heavyweight is worded similarly. Any studies on that if you can get more back for your buck with that at less then 15? Thanks.
I don't think so, and a study on heavyweight would be pretty hard as well. The problem is OL re-engage blocks so often, you could break a block and not even notice if you don't rev-cake the OL. The way the SIM works though, I want as much of a chance as possible to rev cake the blocker when I break the block.
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