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I have some +% Fake Chance.. What others should I look in to?
 
HATEMOBSTER
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Juke would be nice as it's so far down the tree so it's fairly expensive to add SPs to. If you plan on getting a Break tackle piece and having at least 68 strength then spin would be a nice addition as well.
 
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im(newbish)o Spin is the best if you have decent str.
 
MileHighShoes
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with the recent nerf to it for an elusive back i don't think it's so great anymore... a lot of my older dots with agi at 87, carrying at 83, and strength at 77 and spin at 6 are having trouble using spin. I think the necessary investment in strength and spin is not worth it for an elusive back anymore. At 68 strength against ArcheType Dots with spin and the nerf I don't think much success will be found, unless the sim changes again. Which it might, they're trying to make catching harder, so i imagine at one point in the next 4 or 5 seasons they will try to overhaul tackling and make it harder as well, because it has the same problems that i see them trying to fix with catching... but anyways that is another discussion, I'm already way off topic.

I say Juke.
 
timmons48
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so you should get a juke piece and %fake piece and thats it?
 
MileHighShoes
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two fake % pieces, or a fake and brk tckl % piece. Yes i honestly believe brk tkl % is worth more than the points in spin, even with spin being an end of SA tree, the points are better placed in str than spin with the current sim. STR 68, 22% brk tkl and 0 spin is better than 55 STR and 8 spin... IMHO.
 
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im doing HF,juke, and OFF for my elusive back
 
MileHighShoes
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an OFF piece?
Are you really going to pay 60 BT's for an SA that will be a start of tree SA?
 
Demboyz
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Originally posted by MileHighShoes
an OFF piece?
Are you really going to pay 60 BT's for an SA that will be a start of tree SA?


to get it to 10, yes
 
Oli_b
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I've got +Fake Chance, Juke and Spin and am pretty happy with that at the moment.
 
tautology
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Originally posted by MileHighShoes
with the recent nerf to it for an elusive back i don't think it's so great anymore... a lot of my older dots with agi at 87, carrying at 83, and strength at 77 and spin at 6 are having trouble using spin. I think the necessary investment in strength and spin is not worth it for an elusive back anymore. At 68 strength against ArcheType Dots with spin and the nerf I don't think much success will be found, unless the sim changes again. Which it might, they're trying to make catching harder, so i imagine at one point in the next 4 or 5 seasons they will try to overhaul tackling and make it harder as well, because it has the same problems that i see them trying to fix with catching... but anyways that is another discussion, I'm already way off topic.

I say Juke.


Which of your older dots would those be?

 
whatje
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Originally posted by tautology
Which of your older dots would those be?



that, and his advice is pretty much 100% not true
 
MileHighShoes
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Originally posted by tautology
Which of your older dots would those be?



http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1661377
This one

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1794940
This one will be there real soon.

Builds will be open until 10/12
so tomorrow afternnon, just so my ego remains intact.
For reference the first dot was raping shit with spin up until the recent nerf (along with his move up in leagues), but considering he's not even facing the kind of competition that ya'll want to face with less strength and less AGI, and probably less carrying than ya'll want to end up with I would say that spin is indeed a bad idea for an elusive back that is not even taking strength above 70.
 
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Originally posted by MileHighShoes
Originally posted by tautology

Which of your older dots would those be?



http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1661377
This one

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1794940
This one will be there real soon.

Builds will be open until 10/12
so tomorrow afternnon, just so my ego remains intact.
For reference the first dot was raping shit with spin up until the recent nerf (along with his move up in leagues), but considering he's not even facing the kind of competition that ya'll want to face with less strength and less AGI, and probably less carrying than ya'll want to end up with I would say that spin is indeed a bad idea for an elusive back that is not even taking strength above 70.


Now I see...I guess I don't really consider any dot under level 64 minimum to be "older" as their build is very undeveloped at that level (much as your two dots are undeveloped).

Also, those are FBs, not elusive HBs...makes quite a difference.

Those guys are on a path to be good offensive FBs, keep doing what you're doing and you will have success once you get some speed and better supporting attributes (the reason you aren't spinning much right now is because you are slow).






 
MileHighShoes
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Originally posted by tautology
keep doing what you're doing and you will have success once you get some speed and better supporting attributes (the reason you aren't spinning much right now is because you are slow).



I am hoping to god that this is indeed true.

But do you really think that it is just the lack of balance in confidence VA's and a few more points in SA's and ALG's that will make the difference. Because 77 STR against AAA competition isn't enough it seems... then how can 68 STR against WL competition be enough???

Is it really just the lack of rounding out attributes?
 
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