Warrior General Games

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Thought I'd whip something up quick and see what you guys think about it....
I dont exactly use the 4-4

I think its nice.......

My thought is that both WRs are single covered in almost all cases, and the strongside will get swept all over.

Looks good, just don't run that against the Weak I plays where both the FB and HB have routes on the weak side.........
If you do, I'd assign the ROLB to HB Weak>FB Weak and RILB to FB Weak.
Just my thoughts...................

I definetly agree with Stoner...
Note that I would not use this in a game unless it is a powerback/short yardage.

And I highly disagree with the weak side being undermanned...the zone helps with the offset of the CB, and also the LBs cover ground on that side with proper tactics

Ahh.....in a short yardage situation, you're right, it looks solid as heck.

There is literally no reason to use LBs over a SS unless one of them is a strength build.

All you get by making that exchange is fewer placement options and more retarded pathing.

Poor trade imo.

Originally posted by Bleeds
There is literally no reason to use LBs over a SS unless one of them is a strength build.

All you get by making that exchange is fewer placement options and more retarded pathing.

Poor trade imo.

Having had 2 years of experience running the 4-4 defense primarily and pretty much only, I have to agree.

Unless you have strength based linebackers then there is no reason to ever use the 4-4 defense.

I do NOT recommend the use of strength linebackers, and in turn nor do I recommend the use of the 4-4.

In regard to its ability to stop only inside runs with the power back, its pretty clear that you either need to give your linebackers more space or align them better as to which gap they are responsible for.

Your LOLB will most likely always get blocked before the RB gets there, giving him the ability to either cut outside (assuming your corner gets blocked) or plow through the seemingly "invisible" blocked LOLB to go for a big gain. The best way to stop the inside run (imo) is to have "waves" of protection, essentially the linemen take on the blockers, a linebacker takes on the fullback and either a saftey or another linebacker meets them in the hole, leaving your linebackers close like this WILL open you up to give some big gains, though it will likely often times preform its job to hold them for short yards, I wouldn't take the risk.

Originally posted by zmj44
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Thought I'd whip something up quick and see what you guys think about it....
I dont exactly use the 4-4

Is there something specific you're trying to stop, or is this a general play to use against all 2wr sets?

As has been said, it won't stop the sweeps.

Also, why are you blitzing a LB right up the middle? That's basically wasting a player...he won't get a pass rush, and blitzing him isn't going to stop the I Blast, etc, any better.

Also, that play wouldn't cover the HB on a pass play like WI WR Clear Out.

Originally posted by PING72
Is there something specific you're trying to stop, or is this a general play to use against all 2wr sets?

As has been said, it won't stop the sweeps.

Also, why are you blitzing a LB right up the middle? That's basically wasting a player...he won't get a pass rush, and blitzing him isn't going to stop the I Blast, etc, any better.

Also, that play wouldn't cover the HB on a pass play like WI WR Clear Out.

I actually wanted to get something moving in the forum, so I decided to just throw this together and get some complaints from you guys!
Also, the if you line up a LB with a DL guy and blitz, the OL guy will be cleared on a double team and the LB will get right past him, doesnt always work, but when it does it is a sack/hurry automatically

Also, if the blitz doesn't help against the run then how come every player is blitzing in a GL form play

Originally posted by zmj44
I actually wanted to get something moving in the forum, so I decided to just throw this together and get some complaints from you guys!
Also, the if you line up a LB with a DL guy and blitz, the OL guy will be cleared on a double team and the LB will get right past him, doesnt always work, but when it does it is a sack/hurry automatically

Also, if the blitz doesn't help against the run then how come every player is blitzing in a GL form play

Do you have links of that blitz play working (and not working) at the PW level?

Also, do you mean the base GL defense? If so, that sucks. And I'm not saying that blitzing doesn't work to stop the run, but it has to be targeted and used with good scouting (which is why I asked if you were trying to stop something specific, but it sounds like your play is more of a pass blitz). B/C blitzing that guy there won't help you against 95% of runs you'll see.

Originally posted by PING72
Do you have links of that blitz play working (and not working) at the PW level?

Also, do you mean the base GL defense? If so, that sucks. And I'm not saying that blitzing doesn't work to stop the run, but it has to be targeted and used with good scouting (which is why I asked if you were trying to stop something specific, but it sounds like your play is more of a pass blitz). B/C blitzing that guy there won't help you against 95% of runs you'll see.

No lol, I just whipped it up, I would never use it in gold...
And yeah, blitzing is stopped with real good scouting

I agree with most here that the 4-4 is really only used when you want to plug the middle more than a 4-3 is able to do. So it comes down to what do you want that play to do and in what situation?

the 4-4 is gonna always leave a side flawed on D coverage for the outside run ...the question the OC should be asking is does he focus on running to the weak side, or on the strong side