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jonnygreenbay
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I'm still trying to figure out how multiplicative bonuses (AEQ & VA) work.

For example:

I've got a run-stuffing MLB with the following:

AEQ bonus: +17% Force Fumble Chance
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VA: Power Tackler: Adds +3% (x10) bonus to force fumble if not using wrap-up (I'm not)
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VA: Rip the Ball: Adds +3% (x10) chance to force fumble when tackling a player dragging other defenders (which would appear to happen enough to be of benefit)

In the end, what am I really gaining (percentage-wise), as far as increasing my odds of successfully forcing a fumble?

Note: I'm aware that the opponent's carrying ability/AEQ/VA affect this too, but I'm curious as to what my LBs gain is before factoring in the opponent's. Does my question make sense?

 
Worker 3
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17%(from AEQ)+30%(from PT)=47%

when other defenders are being dragged by the ball carrier

17%+30%+30%=77%

the only time %s get halved and all that fun stuff is with AEQ.
for example. you have two 5% FF pieces. you will only get +7.5% FF (5+[5/2]=7.5)
 
jonnygreenbay
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So is it fair to say that this combination is a worthwhile investment of AEQ/VA distribution?
 
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yup... except maybe rip the ball. i dont think anyone has really had a lot of success with it. you would probably need other dots on your team to have death grip if you really want to get the most out of it.

but yeah, the MLB on the cap 4 team i GM plans on getting power tackler and 2-3 pieces of FF AEQ.
 
Qillar
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If you look at the good backs on good teams, it looks like they fumble around 1% or less, about 1 fumble every 100 carries. Assuming you are on a competitive team and you are most interested in performing against other good teams, say you have a better than avg chance from your build to force a fumble, eg 2%. With your va/eq combo, you can boost that up to 3% and 3.5% chance for the 2 scenarios above.

I don't know what the actual % is, so just inferring from season stats. Against bad backs and cpu backs, you may have a 5% chance. I don't know. Now with your eq/va, you could have a 7.5% to almost 9% chance which in this case would lead to a bigger blowout, so it wasn't a big consideration.

Also, if you play ST, that is where most of the fumbles are it seems. A lot of special teamers focus on forcing fumbles and can force multiple fumbles each game.

Another consideration is after the fumble, your team still has to recover the fumble. The FF doesn't mean you stopped them, or you get the ball automatically.

For me personally, I would prefer something else, but maybe for you, a 1-1.5% bonus in a competitive game is good enough. A fumble at the right time can turn a game around, so I can see why some would be satisfied. If you are going to go with the ff% piece, I would also consider adding Monster Hit. Then you can add the va Helmet Crash to hurt his moral, boost the MH, cause the ff then or on a later hit. If you are going to add all these together, then yes, you can have a nice package for forcing fumbles.

If you can get several HHs outfitted like this on a team together, then you can wear those backs down and get consistent FFs teamwise.
 
MRIGUY
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nice writeup Qillar.
 
jonnygreenbay
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Originally posted by MRIGUY
nice writeup Qillar.


Agreed. Thanks, Qillar!
 
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Glad to help or at least offer my opinion.
 


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