He's not on a competitive team at the moment, and has a few SPs to spend as well...interested in hearing advice for how to make him better or why he is not viable (if that is your opinion):
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1173247
tautology
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He's not on a competitive team at the moment, and has a few SPs to spend as well...interested in hearing advice for how to make him better or why he is not viable (if that is your opinion):
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1173247
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Are you gonna bump up the power thru? What about lower the shoulder? I've found these to be pretty useless on strength receivers.
It's a good build, and you'll be a great dual-threat - solid receiver, and also great blocker on outside runs. Obviously your build can really maximize spin.
It's a good build, and you'll be a great dual-threat - solid receiver, and also great blocker on outside runs. Obviously your build can really maximize spin.
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I'd say it's just his speed. He has the strength BT/Spin/quick feet thing going...but his natural speed is only 80 so you are throwing 30 EQ points in there just to be at 110..which is on the low end for a WR that level.
I don't think you need that much strength to break CB tackles consistently with the +% you have going on...I'd take 7 EQ points off of strength (if you could) and put it towards speed. Also, Catch is just too high...that could be 5-10 points lower and that could have gone into speed or even jump.
A +% catch piece would help too if you can snag one and upgrade it training light.
So yeah, too slow...too much wasted on catch...trying to hard to spin and probably not beating CB's in the open field.
I don't think you need that much strength to break CB tackles consistently with the +% you have going on...I'd take 7 EQ points off of strength (if you could) and put it towards speed. Also, Catch is just too high...that could be 5-10 points lower and that could have gone into speed or even jump.
A +% catch piece would help too if you can snag one and upgrade it training light.
So yeah, too slow...too much wasted on catch...trying to hard to spin and probably not beating CB's in the open field.
Edited by BP on Jun 17, 2010 17:36:22
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I honestly would place all available EQ into speed. BP is right you have enough STR and Carrying to break any DB tackles.
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FWIW, I had all gear in speed and he wasn't really breaking tackles...I recently moved gear into str to see what would happen.
BP-I disagree about catching being too high...in my experience a possession/power receiver does well with very high catching, somewhere around 80 ideally. If he had 135 speed, then catching could be lower perhaps....but he needs to contest for balls in coverage and catching is big there.
tjking- I plan to pump PT of course, at least to 8 I think and I like LTS too...might add that if I can manage it.
Nevertheless, please keep informed comments coming, I appreciate the feedback
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Originally posted by jxgator33
I'd pump Pt to 8. Also, you prefer his EQ set-up now over all speed?
Hard to say....he is playing against weak competition and breaking a lot of tackles....not sure how that would translate in a better league.
I'd pump Pt to 8. Also, you prefer his EQ set-up now over all speed?
Hard to say....he is playing against weak competition and breaking a lot of tackles....not sure how that would translate in a better league.
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I'd pump jumping to 68 and then you'll really catch everything thrown your way (catch ball %, also) and I'd make sure your OC is putting your dot in position to take advantage of YAC attack
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Originally posted by tautology
FWIW, I had all gear in speed and he wasn't really breaking tackles...I recently moved gear into str to see what would happen.
BP-I disagree about catching being too high...in my experience a possession/power receiver does well with very high catching, somewhere around 80 ideally. If he had 135 speed, then catching could be lower perhaps....but he needs to contest for balls in coverage and catching is big there.
tjking- I plan to pump PT of course, at least to 8 I think and I like LTS too...might add that if I can manage it.
Nevertheless, please keep informed comments coming, I appreciate the feedback
I can agree with you that catch is important for possession power receivers..just making a point that if he had more speed he wouldn't necessarily need it because he could get more separation and not have to be so highly contested for each catch. But yeah, if you aren't going to move his speed up you need that catch and definately more jump.
My case would be that he'd be more effective as a 125 speed 70 strength/60 catch WR who tries to break tackles as opposed to a 110 speed 80 strength 70 catch WR who has to contest for every catch.
But yeah, peace Taut, good luck with ur player.
FWIW, I had all gear in speed and he wasn't really breaking tackles...I recently moved gear into str to see what would happen.
BP-I disagree about catching being too high...in my experience a possession/power receiver does well with very high catching, somewhere around 80 ideally. If he had 135 speed, then catching could be lower perhaps....but he needs to contest for balls in coverage and catching is big there.
tjking- I plan to pump PT of course, at least to 8 I think and I like LTS too...might add that if I can manage it.
Nevertheless, please keep informed comments coming, I appreciate the feedback
I can agree with you that catch is important for possession power receivers..just making a point that if he had more speed he wouldn't necessarily need it because he could get more separation and not have to be so highly contested for each catch. But yeah, if you aren't going to move his speed up you need that catch and definately more jump.
My case would be that he'd be more effective as a 125 speed 70 strength/60 catch WR who tries to break tackles as opposed to a 110 speed 80 strength 70 catch WR who has to contest for every catch.
But yeah, peace Taut, good luck with ur player.
Edited by BP on Jun 17, 2010 18:57:48
Edited by BP on Jun 17, 2010 18:56:36
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Originally posted by BP
Originally posted by tautology
FWIW, I had all gear in speed and he wasn't really breaking tackles...I recently moved gear into str to see what would happen.
BP-I disagree about catching being too high...in my experience a possession/power receiver does well with very high catching, somewhere around 80 ideally. If he had 135 speed, then catching could be lower perhaps....but he needs to contest for balls in coverage and catching is big there.
tjking- I plan to pump PT of course, at least to 8 I think and I like LTS too...might add that if I can manage it.
Nevertheless, please keep informed comments coming, I appreciate the feedback
I can agree with you that catch is important for possession power receivers..just making a point that if he had more speed he wouldn't necessarily need it because he could get more separation and not have to be so highly contested for each catch. But yeah, if you aren't going to move his speed up you need that catch and definately more jump.
My case would be that he'd be more effective as a 125 speed 70 strength/60 catch WR who tries to break tackles as opposed to a 110 speed 80 strength 70 catch WR who has to contest for every catch.
But yeah, peace Taut, good luck with ur player.
I would tend to agree...except that I had a 68 strength, 120 speed, 70 carrying WR on the former MPHD lineup who was a miserable failure
But, 5-10 more points of speed would make a pretty big difference, so that's not a fair comparison.
I can move 15 points from strength to speed with the click of a mouse, so maybe I will try him again at high speed. Right now he has a horrible running QB throwing him the ball, so....
Originally posted by tautology
FWIW, I had all gear in speed and he wasn't really breaking tackles...I recently moved gear into str to see what would happen.
BP-I disagree about catching being too high...in my experience a possession/power receiver does well with very high catching, somewhere around 80 ideally. If he had 135 speed, then catching could be lower perhaps....but he needs to contest for balls in coverage and catching is big there.
tjking- I plan to pump PT of course, at least to 8 I think and I like LTS too...might add that if I can manage it.
Nevertheless, please keep informed comments coming, I appreciate the feedback
I can agree with you that catch is important for possession power receivers..just making a point that if he had more speed he wouldn't necessarily need it because he could get more separation and not have to be so highly contested for each catch. But yeah, if you aren't going to move his speed up you need that catch and definately more jump.
My case would be that he'd be more effective as a 125 speed 70 strength/60 catch WR who tries to break tackles as opposed to a 110 speed 80 strength 70 catch WR who has to contest for every catch.
But yeah, peace Taut, good luck with ur player.
I would tend to agree...except that I had a 68 strength, 120 speed, 70 carrying WR on the former MPHD lineup who was a miserable failure
But, 5-10 more points of speed would make a pretty big difference, so that's not a fair comparison.
I can move 15 points from strength to speed with the click of a mouse, so maybe I will try him again at high speed. Right now he has a horrible running QB throwing him the ball, so....
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taut, why'd you choose power thru for extra SA over stiff arm? Power thru (and LTS) have been shown to be weak for WRs but I've never seen someone try stiff arm which seems more logical as you don't need the head on momentum you need to execute power thru.
I would think power thru and LTS better for RB than WR but stiff arm better for WR than HB. Any insight on that?
I would think power thru and LTS better for RB than WR but stiff arm better for WR than HB. Any insight on that?
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Originally posted by ijg
taut, why'd you choose power thru for extra SA over stiff arm? Power thru (and LTS) have been shown to be weak for WRs but I've never seen someone try stiff arm which seems more logical as you don't need the head on momentum you need to execute power thru.
I would think power thru and LTS better for RB than WR but stiff arm better for WR than HB. Any insight on that?
I originally wanted to run WR screens with him, and PT is better for that (I think)...but you are probably right on Stiff Arm being better in general for WRs.
WR screens are tough to make effective
taut, why'd you choose power thru for extra SA over stiff arm? Power thru (and LTS) have been shown to be weak for WRs but I've never seen someone try stiff arm which seems more logical as you don't need the head on momentum you need to execute power thru.
I would think power thru and LTS better for RB than WR but stiff arm better for WR than HB. Any insight on that?
I originally wanted to run WR screens with him, and PT is better for that (I think)...but you are probably right on Stiff Arm being better in general for WRs.
WR screens are tough to make effective
dump possession receiver for streaky imo
also i'd switch PT for maybe a catch in stride or catch fake
with catch in stride you don't lose momentum therefore the initial contact he has momentum, strength, spin and a pretty nice bt% rolling his way
Catch fake would also help get more separation etc
nice build though, i've seen one similar and it's beastly in the top tier leagues
also i'd switch PT for maybe a catch in stride or catch fake
with catch in stride you don't lose momentum therefore the initial contact he has momentum, strength, spin and a pretty nice bt% rolling his way
Catch fake would also help get more separation etc
nice build though, i've seen one similar and it's beastly in the top tier leagues
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