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I've never built a HB before, so I would be grateful if anyone could tell me which of the Elusive HB SA's are particularly effective, and which ones I should avoid, that would be great.

Avoid Spin unless you're planning on having good strength and bt% AEQ

HF & Juke are really the only cool ones afaik

I've always have great success with HF/Juke

Quick Cut is great too. Especially if you have high Carrying.

QC / FS / Juke

Alright, so apart from Spin, they're all pretty useful.

Originally posted by Doc
QC / FS / Juke


FS may be good for scat backs but for an elusive I would say leave this SA alone unless your FB has it.
There will be times when he outruns his blocks.

On the same note, is JUKE that much better than HEAD FAKE?

Originally posted by Firenze
Alright, so apart from Spin, they're all pretty useful.

Although honestly if I was making an elusive, I would probably 68-cap (or more) strength and get Break Tackle % gear.

Ultimately, you're going to want all your elusive SAs pretty high.

Surprised how many people like Juke, I thought it was rendered pretty useless after blink-gate.

Originally posted by SunshineMan89
Although honestly if I was making an elusive, I would probably 68-cap (or more) strength and get Break Tackle % gear.

Ultimately, you're going to want all your elusive SAs pretty high.

That completely negates the point of an elusive. Elusives really want to be under DvG so they want 68 capped strength at most. BT% gear is marginally good with them, fake% gear works better.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Surprised how many people like Juke, I thought it was rendered pretty useless after blink-gate.

Juke seems to be working pretty well to me. I have a WR who up until recently had 4 in juke and 87 AGI, 68 Vis, and 41 CAR (at level 42) and was reliably faking even competition, although he still gets overwhelmed and tackled due to only 102 SPD... but he usually fakes at least one dot.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1153234&pbp_id=15281342
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1153235&pbp_id=16143231
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1153229&pbp_id=11045126
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1220613&pbp_id=4982630

All even competition replays. Even if juke is nerfed it still seems to be working okay, I'm sure once I round out his build he'll be shrinking dots left and right. Modeling my Elusive HB after all of the mistakes I made in this build.

nice showing MileHigh. I was curious if I should take agi that high.

Originally posted by boomer82
That completely negates the point of an elusive. Elusives really want to be under DvG so they want 68 capped strength at most. BT% gear is marginally good with them, fake% gear works better.

I guess we have different views of what constitutes an elusive.

It's not difficult to differ the two. An elusive backs wants to "avoid" the tackler at all costs. They do this by faking out said tackler. Power backs run through people and try to break the tackle and a combo does a little of both.