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my retired qb has three golds, two silvers and a bronze trophy in his case for performance reasons, plus a couple of gold trophies for the teams he helped bring to the promised land. not that it matters at all today, but id like to weed out the "learn to play" comments and get a constructive dialogue going about passing %

last season, including preseason, my cap build qb threw for over 50% completion in 7 games. two of those games were blowout games, 255-0

the most depressing point of the season to me was the game we won 96-17. in that regular season game my qb went 28-77, 36.4% completion percentage....in a laugher game that was never contested.

his competion % went down by 12% as compared to his numbers the previous year. he was also sacked 31 times, an enormous increase over the 13 sacks he had the previous year. on top of all that, he had 356 pass attempts as opposed to the previous years 606 total.

part of the reason he had fewer pass attempts is because it was a farking coin flip if he could actually complete a pass, much less on a third down attempt.

in the last three seasons combined this team has gone a combined 43-5 in the regular season. the agents have been together since the start of the team, everyone has cap built, and we all feel confident that our players can compete and win against almost any same leveled non ssb team in the game.

settings have been up and down the scope of the tactics screen. bullet, lofty, open man, route distance, favored open man, etc etc...nothing is working.,

its a stat issue? over 100 throwing, +75 vis, str and conf all over 3 cap.

im lost at this point. a quarterback build done like this, as compared to the above example of my S2 qb, long since retired, should be excelling in every phase of the game. yes, competition gets better, weaker teams drop out, people build better, but just for an example of nfl qbs that throw at a 50% completion rate over the last couple years?

http://www.csnphilly.com/08/18/09/Vick-by-the-Numbers-Accuracy-Still-a-Con/landing.html?blockID=69988&feedID=692

article about how bad mike vicks % rating is...

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Vick’s career completion percentage of 53.8 percent is not only the worst among the 37 active NFL quarterbacks with enough pass attempts to qualify for the all-time stats but also worst among any NFL quarterback who’s been active since 2004.

The only QBs to play in this decade who had a lower career completion percentage are Rick Mirer (53.3 percent) and Danny Kanell (51.4 percent), who haven’t played since the 2003 season; and Kent Graham (51.8 percent), who hasn’t played since 2001.

Only seven other quarterbacks who were active since 1991 retired with a worse career accuracy mark – Mike Tomczak (53.4), Jack Trudeau (53.1), Jeff Kemp (52.3), Billy Joe Tolliver (52.2), Jay Schroder (50.8), Vince Evans (50.6) and Mike Pagel (50
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so, as a comparison, my Qb threw for a 50.3 completion % last season, INCLUDING TWO GAMES IN WHICH MY TEAM SCORED 255 POINTS.

in the same sense, my career completion % of 51.8 would be fourth worst among nfl QBs in the present era....and how many of those fellows played in games where their team scored at least 35 touchdowns more than their opponents?



 
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tl;dr
 
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look, im not saying that every qb out in the game today should be joe montana or dan marino. its stupid, though, to have a qb thats well built, on a team that knows how to play, surrounded by very good talent, to be throwing at a 50% completion rate.

and i dont think that its just me

 
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Like you said....tl;dr, but here is my 2cents...

Anyone can build a good QB. For a QB to do well you need great receivers (including HBs/TEs/FBs), and MOST importantly, you need a good OC. Good OCs can find flaws in opponents gameplans and take advantage. My QB has never been below 50% completion in his career (even though he played against higher level teams all but the last 3 seasons of his career)....but I had a GREAT OC!

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=488277
 
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For what it's worth, you're not the only one running into an issue like this. I know several teams that have been struggling with their QB's stats, even as the team as a whole is on a winning streak -- my fix is to just, at least in my own case, focus on getting the team the W, and worry less about my own QBRat and stuff.

I don't know what's changed in the code, what's changed in the game, what's changed in how one dot throws the little football icon to another dot...but I feel ya.
 
James Brawn
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Originally posted by crawlins
Like you said....tl;dr, but here is my 2cents...

Anyone can build a good QB. For a QB to do well you need great receivers (including HBs/TEs/FBs), and MOST importantly, you need a good OC. Good OCs can find flaws in opponents gameplans and take advantage. My QB has never been below 50% completion in his career (even though he played against higher level teams all but the last 3 seasons of his career)....but I had a GREAT OC!

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=488277


I would also add to that stability and depth along the O-Line. I own the O-Line and QB on my team, and all 6 players improved steadily over the past few seasons. It was only last year when we found 2 good G's, a good C and an adequate OT to back-up that we really improved.

As shown in our last game: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1128001
Granted we were the better team and favourites. But the depth in the O-line really kept the running game going and the passing game alight.
 
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Originally posted by James Brawn
I would also add to that stability and depth along the O-Line. I own the O-Line and QB on my team, and all 6 players improved steadily over the past few seasons. It was only last year when we found 2 good G's, a good C and an adequate OT to back-up that we really improved.

As shown in our last game: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1128001
Granted we were the better team and favourites. But the depth in the O-line really kept the running game going and the passing game alight.


True that
 
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But that's the thing...QBs are hugely dependant on their o line, their WRs, the running game, everything around them to perform well. The team I'm on is all made up of guys that have been together since day 0 of the franchise, all who have players in our Pro League team. I mean, we've got a really solid team going here.

To think that there's, just all of a sudden, a drop off in performance like this isn't right. I mean, were paying 900 flex a season to boost these guys to have them go out and not be able to break the 50% completion mark against JV teams.

And let's be honest, 50% is crap. A well built QB should be able to throw 60% completion, minimum, over a season.
 
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A QB with 100 throwing, 75 vision, 60 confidence and 60 strength throwing for less than 50% completion in a season/career, INCLUDING 255-0 blowouts is like a HB with 100 speed, 75 agility, 60 carry and 60 str averaging less than 3.0 yards a carry for a career.

Against similar opponents it's idiotic

it wouldn't be tolerated by any other skill position player in the game
 
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Originally posted by ashes
A QB with 100 throwing, 75 vision, 60 confidence and 60 strength throwing for less than 50% completion in a season/career, INCLUDING 255-0 blowouts is like a HB with 100 speed, 75 agility, 60 carry and 60 str averaging less than 3.0 yards a carry for a career.

Against similar opponents it's idiotic

it wouldn't be tolerated by any other skill position player in the game


Got the same thing with my QB, although we are playing in AAA league and he is only level 50, but it is annoying.
 
James Brawn
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There are so many variables though:

QB personal tactics
Receivers Builds
OC Game planning
O-Line strength & depth

Looking at the replay of your last game it is down to your offensive style. Your team is rush first pass second and you use a rushing QB to. So you only had 10 attempts. Most of which were on 3rd & long, and you tried to bullet the balls into double/triple coverage for 20 yard gains. Its high risk high reward stuff. It was quite predictable hence why you ended up with 2 INT's.

I would definitely change your tactics to about -50 open man and get the OC to implement some shorter passing routes.
 
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There are many QBs in WL that are well over 50% passing...so it is totally possible. Like Brawn said...the OAI is probably to blame. Plus you need to make sure you use the TE/FB/HB in the passing game to help (maybe you are, I didn't check).
 
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Originally posted by ashes
he was also sacked 31 times, an enormous increase over the 13 sacks he had the previous year.





It seems like this might be a big part of the problem? Sacks are a pretty big moral hit and though your conf is at 60 it may not be enough if you're on your back 31 times.
 
James Brawn
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Originally posted by YoMama4432

It seems like this might be a big part of the problem? Sacks are a pretty big moral hit and though your conf is at 60 it may not be enough if you're on your back 31 times.


Thats true, here are the stats of my QB and his team from the past 3 seasons:

Season 14: Was 2-3 when sacked and was 11-0 when he wasn't sacked. (13-3 overall record)
Season 13: Was 2-7 when sacked and was 5-2 when he wasn't sacked. (7-9 overall record)
Season 12: Was 4-7 when sacked and was 5-0 when he wasn't sacked. (9-7 overall record)

So he is 8-17 when sacked and 21-2 when he wasn't sacked
 
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Originally posted by ashes
A QB with 100 throwing, 75 vision, 60 confidence and 60 strength throwing for less than 50% completion in a season/career, INCLUDING 255-0 blowouts is like a HB with 100 speed, 75 agility, 60 carry and 60 str averaging less than 3.0 yards a carry for a career.

Against similar opponents it's idiotic

it wouldn't be tolerated by any other skill position player in the game


Sorry but thats not a good build.
 
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