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dubduece22
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which would be better balance or relentless pursuit?
 
Exior
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I wouldn't go relentless.. chances are later in your guys career QBs aren't going to take 3 seconds in the pocket. Have to figure also that after that 3 second mark your player "tries harder" or whatever and its going to take another couple seconds to get to the QB. All that time just isn't worth it imo.
 
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I chose Blitz
 
BiggerBlue
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Blitz, ouch, it's proven by many other threads that Blitz is worthless as the increase seems to be very minimal.

Balance seems to be the only SA that's worth it to invest in.

I was gonna to experiment a DE with high FS, TV, SB, and Strong Base, but now Strong Base is a liability that experiment is over.
 
iceauger9
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So what seems to be the best custom SA to go with? I see the comment on Relentless Pursuit, so that seems out.. DE don't really get double teamed, so Break Through seems out.. Is Trash Talk or The Glare maybe good? Possibly Fire Up? What about Big Hit? I am just not sure about Balance? My DE has 83 speed, 75 agility, 63 strength, 56 tackling, 50 vision.. What should I go with? Had 5 sacks last season, and just 12 tackles.. Want to get those both up..
 
BiggerBlue
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Balance is the only unknown, so it's the only one "worth it" by default since all others really SUCK in my opinion.

My second opinion is Bort shouldn't make Strong Base a liability
 
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But, with Catch22 looking @ SAs, it seems somewhat likely that Blitz will get buffed if it doesn't work well now...
 
BiggerBlue
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Originally posted by SeattleNiner
But, with Catch22 looking @ SAs, it seems somewhat likely that Blitz will get buffed if it doesn't work well now...


They fear buffing Blitz because it means the DE will be "too powerful". Can you imagine a buffed Blitz with 10-15 in them? It would be a killer since Blitz activates ALL the time the DE rushes the QB.

 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Balance is the only unknown, so it's the only one "worth it" by default since all others really SUCK in my opinion.

My second opinion is Bort shouldn't make Strong Base a liability


But don't you think that balance will not help much?


From my point of view it will only delay the pancake a little because if you're stumbling you will be easier to pancake the next tick.
 
BiggerBlue
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Originally posted by Estika
But don't you think that balance will not help much?


From my point of view it will only delay the pancake a little because if you're stumbling you will be easier to pancake the next tick.


My point is we know all other SAs suck, and the only unknown is Balance, and of course based on other SAs Balance will probably suck too, and passrushing DEs are stuck with sucky shits.
 
TheRawDog
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I think it's obviously Fired Up. I'm going to get 30-50 sacks this year. Each one of those rolls for a moral and energy boost to the entire defence. As well as for tackles for loss and 3rd down stops.

Doesn't that have to be helpful?
 
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I went with Balance. With strength not a prime attribute, I tried rolling up a de this past season and just pumped everything into agility. I got a crazy amount of sacks and hurries but was finally set back by getting pancaked 20+ times a game. So I think balance will maybe make up for that lack of strength from the pass rushing de without a lot of strength. It seems like a whole new ballgame this season so I guess we won't really know until the games begin.
 
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I hate these choices. I have no idea what is best, but I think it's between blitz and balance.
 
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Originally posted by TheRawDog
I think it's obviously Fired Up. I'm going to get 30-50 sacks this year. Each one of those rolls for a moral and energy boost to the entire defence. As well as for tackles for loss and 3rd down stops.

Doesn't that have to be helpful?


Fired Up doesn't say anything about sacks counting. It does say tackles for loss, but I don't think those count as a TFL. If you look at the box score they don't.
 
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I just went Relentless Pursuit. Yea I know it has its faults, but quite frankly, none of the other options are that great either. It could be awesome on 3rd & 10 situations where the QB is forced to hold onto the ball for a long time to wait for routes to develop down field

I don't like Balance because a DE with decent strength, on average, is only going to get pancaked 2 times a game. Relentless Pursuit has more opportunities to trigger than Balance does. Good DE's need decent strength in combination with agility to break blocks, so to all those getting heavily pancaked, Balance will only be a band aid. It wont help improve your break tackle rolls, which relies on both agi and str.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue

Blitz, ouch, it's proven by many other threads that Blitz is worthless as the increase seems to be very minimal.

Balance seems to be the only SA that's worth it to invest in.

I was gonna to experiment a DE with high FS, TV, SB, and Strong Base, but now Strong Base is a liability that experiment is over.

Yea I agree. Blitz is useless. Some swear it works, but I've done tests and have seen it first-hand that it does squat. DE's are better off converting their bonus tokens into SP's for Shed Block, TV, Change Direction, or First Step than waste it on that Blitz garbage.
Edited by ReMeDy on Mar 24, 2010 12:18:47
Edited by ReMeDy on Mar 24, 2010 12:17:08
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